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Re: Does the Leaf appeal to conservatives?

Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:54 pm

If you're going to talk about hypocrisy, look no further than Al "do as I say not as I do" Gore.
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Re: Does the Leaf appeal to conservatives?

Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:28 pm

sjfotos wrote: Conservatives, as a group, hate the Leaf.
Wow.
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Re: Does the Leaf appeal to conservatives?

Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:49 pm

LTLFTcomposite wrote:
sjfotos wrote: Conservatives, as a group, hate the Leaf.
Wow.
Hey, I am just reporting what I read. I am out on many blogs and investment forums defending the Leaf.....and i get continuously hammered as a subsidy loving commie destroyer of market capitalism, which is odd as my career was in Corporate Accounting.

I don't have some huge political ax to grind, it is just that subsidies of any kind get most conservatives all riled up.
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Re: Does the Leaf appeal to conservatives?

Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:03 pm

But how can you extend that to the Leaf?

The question is how do conservatives feel about the Leaf,
not how do they feel about the Leaf subsidy.

I approve of the Leaf, not of the subsidy. I'm waaay far right.

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Re: Does the Leaf appeal to conservatives?

Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:20 pm

Dav wrote:But how can you extend that to the Leaf?

The question is how do conservatives feel about the Leaf,
not how do they feel about the Leaf subsidy.

I approve of the Leaf, not of the subsidy. I'm waaay far right.
Well as a Republican and middle of the road conservative I think your just pushing bias crap. I have a solar home and I am going to buy the leaf. I am not some left wing tree hugger. I just buy things with the future in mind. I ask myself what is the price for say gas or electric in the future 10 years down the road. I drive near 80 miles to work and back and in 5 years at current gas prices I will save about $9,000. So the leaf over 10 years will only cost what I would have paid for a ICE Honda Fit. I am in to new high tech stuff and this is going to be my new toy.
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Re: Does the Leaf appeal to conservatives?

Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:36 pm

LTLFTcomposite wrote:If you're going to talk about hypocrisy, look no further than Al "do as I say not as I do" Gore.
The truth is the truth even if told by a liar.

(no - I'm not saying he's a liar - I'm simply saying that it's a very common sales and/or (dare I say neocon?) tactic to try to discredit the message by throwing rocks at the messenger. What Al Gore did was tell the SAME story that science has been saying for more than 30 years - he communicated it to the masses better than the PhDs in journals that the public doesn't read.)

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Re: Does the Leaf appeal to conservatives?

Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:39 pm

LTLFTcomposite wrote:If you're going to talk about hypocrisy, look no further than Al "do as I say not as I do" Gore.
Hmmm ... like what ? Worse than Rush or Vitter ?
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Re: Does the Leaf appeal to conservatives?

Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:40 pm

Thanks to each of you! I know many other far-right 'military-industrial complex' types that spend their time building electric bikes and helping folks dump ICE in their lives. I can guarantee that some of the most strident oil haters are folks involved in the process of protecting it...

One thing we're showing here is there's a huge difference between the political message and the desires of real people from a range of views of the world.

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Re: Does the Leaf appeal to conservatives?

Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:42 pm

Dav wrote:The question is how do conservatives feel about the Leaf,
not how do they feel about the Leaf subsidy.
Well, you are just splitting hair.

They hate Leaf because of subsidy. And probably because Nissan is pushing it as a "zero emission" vehicle - while AGW is a taboo for Republicans (who are mostly mistaken to be conservatives in this country).

ps : You can see a lot of Leaf hating & yet subsidy embracing rightwingers in gm-volt blog. Infact they keep dissing Obama - ignoring the fact that without him GM would be bankrupt today.
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Re: Does the Leaf appeal to conservatives?

Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:51 pm

evnow wrote:
LTLFTcomposite wrote:If you're going to talk about hypocrisy, look no further than Al "do as I say not as I do" Gore.
Hmmm ... like what ? Worse than Rush or Vitter ?
While I consider myself a conservative I think RL is unenlightened on a number of subjects. But at least while he's out flying around on a G5 he isn't critiquing everyone else'e carbon footprint.

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