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Re: Factory Maintenance Schedule-Ideas?

Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:16 am

AndyH wrote:Thanks for that! I understand it's also replacing Matic J in other cars as well. Does that sound accurate to you?
Yes it does replace Matic J. For the Z I looked service interval this morning and it says it is a "lifetime fluid" sure you feel the same way as I do about that. Sure you know but thought I would mention that coolant in ev's and hybrid's for the elec. motor is special also. I do not have any manuals for the leaf yet at work. Think they are only allowing dealers that are trained to access them. But the hybrid coolant was a special coolant.
Is it better to let people think you are stupid than open your mouth and prove it?

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Re: Factory Maintenance Schedule-Ideas?

Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:52 am

AndyH wrote:I don't have tech data for Nissan Matic S yet. I've purchased a quart and have sent a sample to an oil testing lab. I'll report back when I have numbers.
Numbers are back - Nissan Matic Fluid S is a VERY low viscosity fluid!
Lab Report: http://www.absoluteefficiency.com/LEAF/matic_s.jpg

GM's Dexron VI, Ford's Mercon SP, and VW's G52 are all in the 5.7-6.3cSt viscosity window (±5% lab accuracy), and these are the lowest viscosity automatic transmission fluids available to the public.

Those that desire an efficiency increase will have to ignore fluid changes and move to driving style and aerodynamic mods - there's no commonly-available lower viscosity fluid available for us to use! **

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Manual Transmission Fluids

VI Vis@40C Vis@100C
128 159.0 18.3 = AMSOIL CTL SAE 50 Powershift GL-1
..............16.7 = Motul MOTYLGEAR 75-90 GL-4/-5
..............15.6 = VW G50/G51 GL-4
185 90.0 15.6 = Redline MT-90 75-90 GL-4
..............15.2 = Mobil 1 Synthetic 75W-90 GL-5
..............15.2 = Motul Gear 300 75-90 GL-4/-5
..............15.0 = Elf Tranself Synthese FE 75-90 GL-4/-5
132 116.0 14.9 = AMSOIL AGL 80W-90 GL-5
177 84.5 14.7 = AMSOIL MTG 75-90 GL-4
..... 76.6 14.2 = VW G052-911
133 76.2 11.0 = AMSOIL CTJ SAE 30 Powershift GL-1
183 56.2 10.6 = Redline MTL 70-80 GL-4
194 47.1 9.6 = AMSOIL MTF Synchromesh Trans fluid (GM/Chrysler) GL-?
208 41.6 9.1 = Penzoil Synchromesh trans fluid GL-?
198 34.0 7.5 = Redline D4 ATF Dexron III / Mercon / API GL-4
138 40.5 7.1 = AMSOIL CTG SAE 10W Powershift GL-1
..... 31.2 6.5 = VW G-052-171-A2 GL-?
..... 35.1 6.4 = VW G-055-726-A2 GL-?
..............6.3 = VW G52 (part numbers G052726A2 / G05272601) GL-?

Automatic Transmission Fluids

VI Vis@40C Vis@100C
.............8.3 = Honda CVT Fluid
168 38.9 7.6 = AMSOIL Synthetic Multi-Vehicle ATF
198 34.0 7.5 = Redline D4
176 36.3 7.4 = Mobil 1 Synthetic
138 40.5 7.1 = AMSOIL Ford type F
---- 33.2 7.5 = Ford Mercon V
166 30.7 6.4 = Redline D6
153 29.8 6.0 = AMSOIL Synthetic Fuel Efficient ATF
---- 27.5 6.0 = Nissan Matic Fluid S
155 27.3 5.7 = Ford Mercon SP
87 7.7 2.2 = Ford Ranger EV (Tribolube L6)

**Added info for Ranger EV transaxle fluid. It is a lower viscosity fluid. Rumors from early 2010 suggest it's no longer being manufactured. http://syntheticlubricants.aerospacelub ... L-6TDS.pdf

Added 40°C viscosity for Nissan Matic S; updated lab report
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Re: Factory Maintenance Schedule-Ideas?

Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:28 am

LEAFfan wrote:
indyflick wrote:How long should the shocks and suspension last? It's pretty heavy for a subcompact.

The 12v accessory battery may last a lot longer than 3 or 4 years. I suspect it's a deep cycle lead acid battery. The on board management system will use the 24kWh pack to keep that battery topped off and in optimal charge condition. Many golf cart batteries last 6 to 8 years and they aren't being actively managed.
LOL, not in the intense heat of AZ. With a regular car battery (deluxe) you will be lucky to get much over two years here. I have yet to have one go three (out of 6 so far). I'm hoping the LEAF aux will last much longer...we will see.
Its the heat under the hood that kills the batteries in AZ.. many cars keep the battery separate and they do better.. should not be that hot under the LEAF's hood, unless you order one in black :D

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Re: Factory Maintenance Schedule-Ideas?

Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:29 am

Well you COULD go with a dimethyl silicone oil with viscosity between 0.5 and 1.5cSt but I'm not sure if the gears would get adequate lubrication with that. Such a minimal difference would not be worth the risk or the cost.
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Re: Factory Maintenance Schedule-Ideas?

Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:08 pm

For regular ICE 12v batteries, isn't it the constant over-charging (AND the heat) that tends to lower their lifetime in AZ?

If done well (by appling perhaps 12 volts instead of over 14) the 12v battery in the LEAF might not ever get over-charged, and thus have a significantly longer life expectancy?
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Re: Factory Maintenance Schedule-Ideas?

Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:52 pm

Smidge204 wrote:Well you COULD go with a dimethyl silicone oil with viscosity between 0.5 and 1.5cSt but I'm not sure if the gears would get adequate lubrication with that. Such a minimal difference would not be worth the risk or the cost.
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Re: Factory Maintenance Schedule-Ideas?

Mon May 23, 2011 4:57 pm

For the intervals that only require a tire rotation, is that something that has to be done by a Nissan dealer? Or can I do it myself or take it somewhere else for this (like to my old ICE mechanic)? Is there a warranty problem if this is not done by a Nissan dealer?

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Re: Factory Maintenance Schedule-Ideas?

Mon May 23, 2011 5:17 pm

Kataphn wrote:For the intervals that only require a tire rotation, is that something that has to be done by a Nissan dealer? Or can I do it myself or take it somewhere else for this (like to my old ICE mechanic)? Is there a warranty problem if this is not done by a Nissan dealer?

Kat
In the US you don't have to have ANY work done by a dealer to maintain warranty.

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Re: Factory Maintenance Schedule-Ideas?

Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:23 am

Read this article, if interested cell phone tracking http://pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/cars/cardeal/cardeal.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hope it'll help
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Re: Factory Maintenance Schedule-Ideas?

Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:47 am

AndyH wrote:
Kataphn wrote:For the intervals that only require a tire rotation, is that something that has to be done by a Nissan dealer? Or can I do it myself or take it somewhere else for this (like to my old ICE mechanic)? Is there a warranty problem if this is not done by a Nissan dealer?
In the US you don't have to have ANY work done by a dealer to maintain warranty.
But you have to prove that you did required maintenance otherwise they will void your warranty.. usually saving the receipts when you change the oil is enough.. hopefully you xeroxed them in case they fade away.

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