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Safe Display of LEAF - Lock out Motion

Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:02 pm

Some of us (like Nissan, and dealere) will want to "Display" our new LEAF, and let others "play" with the electronics, but without the danger of the car actually moving.

Ao, whenever the LEAF is displayed with Power On (so people can play with the Audio, Nav, etc,) is there and way to "lock" the LEAF from going into any motion mode?

For example, does putting the LEAF into ACC mode and then removing the RFID from the area keep the car from going into Ready mode?

Does setting the Parking Brake and then removing the fuse to the release-motor work?

The car can move with doors open, I presume, so no help there.

Is there some other fuse that could be removed, or sensor connection that could be unplugged, or a critical circuit connector (one to the Inverter?) to unplug, or a circuit where a hidden switch could be added to open (or short) some sensor?

Ideas?
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Re: Safe Display of LEAF - Lock out Motion

Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:08 pm

Will it move while charging?
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Re: Safe Display of LEAF - Lock out Motion

Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:09 pm

smkettner wrote:Will it move while charging?
No.
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Re: Safe Display of LEAF - Lock out Motion

Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:11 pm

Ooh! Me! Me!

I found that there are two accessory modes, at least one of which will definitely still run when the RFID is removed from the vicinity of the car:

First accessory mode - central stack "on", dash display "off" - press start button quickly with foot off brake. This mode is definitely sustainable with the RFID away from the car.

Second accessory mode - both displays "on" - while in first accessory mode press start button again (foot still off brake). Not sure if this mode is sustainable with the RFID away from the car yet, but you definitely can't get into drive or reverse from there. However you can get into neutral, so blocks are still a really good idea. I think you can also get into it via a single extended push on the start button without putting your foot on the brake, but I'm not sure.
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Re: Safe Display of LEAF - Lock out Motion

Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:12 pm

Jimmydreams wrote:
smkettner wrote:Will it move while charging?
No.
What about with the L1 connected to Leaf but not plugged in?
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Re: Safe Display of LEAF - Lock out Motion

Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:24 pm

Bah, I'm too slow - you guys beat me to it. I was going to suggest getting a nice heavy duty extension cord (yes, I know Nissan advises against it) and have the car plugged in. It's not a 100% solution (someone could kick the cord out and it requires access to an outlet) but it's certainly better than nothing.

As for mwalsh's solution - that's a good one, but isn't the car also able to be turned off from that state? I know Gary asked about a solution with the RFID out of "range", but to me that sounds like it would be a pain in the butt. I see someone turning off the car when messing around with it whcih means you would need to get the RFID back into range, turn the car back on properly and then move the RFID out of range again. ::shrug::

Another extremely low-tech possibility. I seem to recall a mention that the car wouldn't go into Drive if a door was left open (I can't really confirm this in the manual so it would definitely need to be tested first). If this is the case then come up with some solution that doesn't allow a door to close all the way (tape? a piece of wood or styrofoam?).

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Re: Safe Display of LEAF - Lock out Motion

Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:44 pm

Having L1 plugged in, even if unpowered, SHOULD keep the car from being driven away.

However, it is too easy for a "visitor" to unplug the e-nozzle.
I would hope that we can discover a more-sure solution.
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Re: Safe Display of LEAF - Lock out Motion

Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:47 pm

Can somebody check the door-open driving?

Presumably, one should be able to drive with the hatch open.
It was mentioned elsewhere, but I do not recall a conclusion.
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Re: Safe Display of LEAF - Lock out Motion

Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:27 pm

garygid wrote:Having L1 plugged in, even if unpowered, SHOULD keep the car from being driven away.

However, it is too easy for a "visitor" to unplug the e-nozzle.
I would hope that we can discover a more-sure solution.
I believe there is a provision for a lock.
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Re: Safe Display of LEAF - Lock out Motion

Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:06 pm

smkettner wrote:
garygid wrote:Having L1 plugged in, even if unpowered, SHOULD keep the car from being driven away.

However, it is too easy for a "visitor" to unplug the e-nozzle.
I would hope that we can discover a more-sure solution.
I believe there is a provision for a lock.
+1 - This is what I plan on doing when displaying my car.
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