chazd1 wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:08 pm
I was quoted $8025.59 after a $150 diagnostic nonsense charge. I have the written quote if someone wants to see it. These quotes are real. I flipped out since I was expecting the 5k promise price. I also went to the sales folks and asked for a trade on a new leaf. They would not budge and actually wouldn't give me squat for the car on trade. The dealer blamed the mess on Nissan. They said don't take it out on the dealer, --right.
I do love the car. I have 2. A 2012 in SoCal and a 2013 in Atlanta with 11 bars.
7 bar blues in SoCal
Yeah, not giving you squat on the trade doesn't surprise me. I wasn't going to get squat/dealer didn't want the car when I tried selling my 11 bar '13 Leaf SV w/premium (but no CHAdeMO) to 3 Nissan dealers (https://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=557892#p557892
) almost a year ago. I think the dealers themselves will have a tough time selling it for much and they end up taking a risk if they try to do so. So, they might just send it to auction and give you auction value. That's what happens when they don't want the car.
A 7 bar '12 on the open market is probably worth like $3K to $3.5K.
As for don't take it out on the dealer, do realize that in many (most?) parts of the US, automakers can't own dealers. Google for tesla franchise laws
if you want to read more about it.
I've not seen that Fundable page before and didn't know about the domain until now. Their 400K Leafs figure in the US is totally wrong. It's on the order of 142K (https://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=576697#p576697
). Leaf is past 400K sales worldwide though.
Will reply more about Fenix later. I had thought more last night about even greater skepticism that they'll have a working product that's safe to use (e.g. from catching fire, short circuit, overcharge conditions besides sudden power loss and car going into limp mode) for real customers by end of 2020. And, whether they can stay afloat given the pricing model and lack of demand. I mean, GM has an elaborate battery lab (https://www.wired.com/2009/06/general-motors-3/
) and must have a boatload of engineers just working on that. Fenix not long ago figured who out their cell supplier would be.