Win? That is only on plus adjustments. This I call a closely fought but lost battle that could have been a coin toss especially when considering Nissan instrumentation.
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 91.51% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic
Here is a 2 year report on a battery in the outback down under. Its still above 94%. I am beginning to think the 62 actually prefers warmer weather.
https://youtu.be/sezcdXpessw
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SageBrush
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic
So about a 10 year lifetime at current loss rate until 'EOL' at 70% capacity of new. We tend to poo-poo Nissan engineering but they really do know how to match pack warranty with average real-world degradation.DougWantsALeaf wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:43 pmHere is a 2 year report on a battery in the outback down under.
Not great by any means, but solid if slow progress since Gen 1
An aside, I've never seen such a symmetric shunting across modules. Is that something new with 62 kWh packs ?
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Learjet
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic
Charged to 100% for a long trip...here is what leaf spy said.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic
Like other evs, I don't think degradation is going to be linear. That said, the oldest Pluses are just over 2 years old, so we still have a few years to observe.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic
If the 2018+ has 3 temp sensors, what is the 4th sensor?
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic
Place holder used for Gen zero and Gen oneDougWantsALeaf wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:35 pmIf the 2018+ has 3 temp sensors, what is the 4th sensor?
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2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 91.51% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic
Then why do they read 4 different temperatures? Is one a motor/inverter temp?
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic
It does make you wonder what the 3rds reading is for? Up until recently, it was simply blank. So the 3rd phantom number is what?? Average reading? Who knows. FYI; motor inverter temp is completely different data point and MUCH higherDougWantsALeaf wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:21 pmThen why do they read 4 different temperatures? Is one a motor/inverter temp?
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 91.51% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic
One curious note on my last long drive was that even though SoH was lower than the last time I charged to 100% due to bms change, my gids were higher (by about 10). 725 vs. 715 last time. I thought that kind of odd. Car started garaged both time while charging and battery temp was similar at start of drive.
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Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh