johnlocke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:46 pmIdeally you would like a charge rate of 10C so you could duplicate the fueling time for an IC vehicle. I doubt that will happen. OTH, how many times have you waited in line at a Costco gas station to fill up. Even at a local station sometimes you need to wait for an open pump, If you can charge at home, time to charge is simply not an issue. A half hour break every 3-4 hours while on the road isn't a bad thing. An hour to charge is probably too long for most people though.oxothuk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:03 pmAgree with your second point but disagree with the first.GRA wrote: ↑Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:28 pmOh, here's a post that's actually on-topic. IMO, any current BEV that doesn't DCFC at a max. rate of 1.5C or better, or that takes more than 30 minutes to FC from 20-80% is at best un-competitive, at worst obsolescent if not obsolete. Any BEV that takes more than 45 minutes to charge from 20-80%, i.e. the Bolt/EUV is obsolete.
Medium (say sub-20kWh, e.g. Volt/RAV4 Prime) and small (<10?kWh) battery PHEVs should have OBCs that enable them to fully opportunity charge at (sufficiently powerful) L2s in 2-2.5 hours.
BEVs are best used as daily drivers by owners who can charge at home. DCFC is not important for that use case.
FWIW, I’ve never run across a charger that would deliver more than 0.8C to my SL+, although I’m sure they exist somewhere.
Panel upgrade, presuming the service is adequate.
SageBrush wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:11 pmPanel upgrade, presuming the service is adequate.
This is one of GRA's more off-the-wall ideas, and that is saying something since he spends most of his time on hydrogen
You really do live in a world devoid of inconvenient facts. As I told you above, Tesla offered 72/80 Amp OBC 5 years ago, and now the max is 48 Amps.
SageBrush wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:06 pmYou really do live in a world devoid of inconvenient facts. As I told you above, Tesla offered 72/80 Amp OBC 5 years ago, and now the max is 48 Amps.
Who ? Which EVs ?