Chademo killed my new 2018 Leaf

[Mike04]

Location:

https://www.plugshare.com/location/17563

Thanks! I noticed on Feb 21, 2018 (two days before your post) a report on Plugshare of

Scott
Nissan LEAF
CHAdeMO not working. Error message is faulty ground.

Yes, that was the day of my mishap. That was apparently posted after the mishap. I tried to report the machine malfunction at the time, but plugshare was not allowing me to for some reason. So I left unreported. But I did not see that report at the time.

Friday the 23rd was when I heard back from the dealer that my car was, as the tech said it, generating literally pages of error codes for every system in the car. Up to that point I was hoping, expecting really, that it needed a simple reset, or maybe had fried a fusable link, and would be back good as new.

Then I went looking here to see if other people were having similar issues and to let people know this is a possible issue.

[AndrewAndDebbie]

Will be interesting to know if charger or car is to blame or some of both.

Yes.

Prior to this, about the only time I'd heard of the "magic smoke" (http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/M/magic-smoke.html) being let out of CHAdeMO chargers was from not very reliable tall slim Nissan/Sumitomo DC FCs after extended sustained output connected to a Model S (https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... ost-772913 connected to https://web.archive.org/web/20150214040 ... ssanqc.com).

I managed to smoke a Nissan DBT/CEV rapid charger with a 2014 LEAF. This is the same design but built in France by DBT/CEV. I was the third car in line and the rapid overheated. My car was fine. The charger wasn't.

DBT/CEV and the operator went through and retrofitted all the chargers to improve cooling, reduce water ingress and set a 106A current limit. Since then they've been more reliable.

[DaveinOlyWA]

Will be interesting to know if charger or car is to blame or some of both.

Yes.

Prior to this, about the only time I'd heard of the "magic smoke" (http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/M/magic-smoke.html) being let out of CHAdeMO chargers was from not very reliable tall slim Nissan/Sumitomo DC FCs after extended sustained output connected to a Model S (https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... ost-772913 connected to https://web.archive.org/web/20150214040 ... ssanqc.com).

I managed to smoke a Nissan DBT/CEV rapid charger with a 2014 LEAF. This is the same design but built in France by DBT/CEV. I was the third car in line and the rapid overheated. My car was fine. The charger wasn't.

DBT/CEV and the operator went through and retrofitted all the chargers to improve cooling, reduce water ingress and set a 106A current limit. Since then they've been more reliable.

We had several chargers that had overheating problems as well and iirc were fixed by simply maintaining filters better and repositioning the existing fans with additional venting to better direct air flow.

[cwerdna]

Any update?

[Mike04]

Any update?

No update yet. Nissan sent someone "from the factory" to look at the car earlier this week. And I have been interviewed twice by Nissan customer service asking what happened. They have lots of questions for me but nothing about how or why they think this might have happened or what they plan to do.

I will update if/when I get more info. Meanwhile I have a loaner 2016 Leaf from the dealer.

[jonathanfields4ever]

Any update?

No update yet. Nissan sent someone "from the factory" to look at the car earlier this week. And I have been interviewed twice by Nissan customer service asking what happened. They have lots of questions for me but nothing about how or why they think this might have happened or what they plan to do.

I will update if/when I get more info. Meanwhile I have a loaner 2016 Leaf from the dealer.

That really sucks that they have you driving an older loaner. Please keep us updated on your situation. I have to use ChaDemo (trying to stick to lower rated machines like 20kW to 40kW) almost exclusively for the next month, so I'd be interested to see if there's something I need to watch out for.

[Phatcat73]

30 day lemon law deadline is approaching. Be sure to read the guidelines

http://www.marylandattorneygeneral.gov/ ... lemon.aspx

[Mike04]

Any update?

No update yet. Nissan sent someone "from the factory" to look at the car earlier this week. And I have been interviewed twice by Nissan customer service asking what happened. They have lots of questions for me but nothing about how or why they think this might have happened or what they plan to do.

I will update if/when I get more info. Meanwhile I have a loaner 2016 Leaf from the dealer.

That really sucks that they have you driving an older loaner. Please keep us updated on your situation. I have to use ChaDemo (trying to stick to lower rated machines like 20kW to 40kW) almost exclusively for the next month, so I'd be interested to see if there's something I need to watch out for.

The dealer sevice manager says the people at the factory are really interested in my car because no one has ever seen this before. The folks at Greenlots said the same, that this is the first they have seen. Service guy says there was no change to the CHAdeMO port, it is the same hardware and software as earlier models. So hopefully this was a one in a million fluke, the stars and moon alligned just right, and not an issue with the new Leaf.

[Mike04]

30 day lemon law deadline is approaching. Be sure to read the guidelines

http://www.marylandattorneygeneral.gov/ ... lemon.aspx

As I understand, it is not a 30 day deadline, it is that I have to give them 30 days to make it right before I can invoke the lemon law and demand replacement or refund. Maybe I misunderstood.

[DaveinOlyWA]

Any update?

I talked to AV tech who was doing general maintenance on Tumwater Station yesterday and they know what the issue is concerning the 2018 LEAFs but would not elaborate. It would appear that AV is in wait mode in its collaboration with Nissan on how to proceed.