DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:06 pm

I was getting some free evgo chademo power today. When I unplugged the charger said I was at 76%. But when I rebooted the car, it popped to 83%. Not too big of a deal, and I have seen it alter by a percent before but not 7%.
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:33 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:06 pm
I was getting some free evgo chademo power today. When I unplugged the charger said I was at 76%. But when I rebooted the car, it popped to 83%. Not too big of a deal, and I have seen it alter by a percent before but not 7%.
:shock:
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 92.44% SOH
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:32 pm

lorenfb wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:18 am
DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:07 am
I found that picture amazing. So the repeated heating cycles caused the battery pounches to pop and bend?

Were the cabs using DC charging almost exclusively?
Excessive heat!
Yes, you both are right. Even though these vehicles are in a mild temperature zone, the battery is so well insulated that it can't shed the heat after being DC charged all day long. Once the modules expand enough, it will alter the resistance, and start to throw insulation resistance fault codes. Still very safe to the driver, true testament how well LMNO2 cells are when it comes to safety.

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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:39 am

A slightly off-topic question, but important that I get an answer ASAP: does the Leaf Plus accelerate about the same in Eco mode as the 40kwh Leaf? I read that the full 214 HP is only available with Eco off, and I'm wondering if a friend would be intimidated by the Plus in Eco mode if she is ok with the 40kwh Leaf in Eco.
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:21 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:39 am
A slightly off-topic question, but important that I get an answer ASAP: does the Leaf Plus accelerate about the same in Eco mode as the 40kwh Leaf? I read that the full 214 HP is only available with Eco off, and I'm wondering if a friend would be intimidated by the Plus in Eco mode if she is ok with the 40kwh Leaf in Eco.
I can't exactly answer the question because I have not driven a 40KW Leaf, but the Plus in Eco really moves out of its own way very well. You (or housemate, as the case may be) will not be disappointed. My daughter has a plug-in Prius and the Leaf accelerates much faster. and of course max torque at all RPMs so no "hunting" for correct gear either. As far as range anxiety, the Leaf Plus still has limits but they are MUCH different than our older Leaf- unless we are travelling somewhere we essentially never think about battery status- plug it in at night with a simple mechanical timer so the charge never goes above about 80% and most nights no need to charge at all. Hope this helps!
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:50 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:39 am
A slightly off-topic question, but important that I get an answer ASAP: does the Leaf Plus accelerate about the same in Eco mode as the 40kwh Leaf? I read that the full 214 HP is only available with Eco off, and I'm wondering if a friend would be intimidated by the Plus in Eco mode if she is ok with the 40kwh Leaf in Eco.
Yes, it does "seem" snappier to the point that I am having a problem deciding whether or not the LEAF is slower off the line than the Bolt. The reality is we then come to a limitation of tires in my case with the S. TBH; the LEAF has a ton of power in Eco B so not sure why anyone would need more than that in day to day driving.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 92.44% SOH
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:57 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:50 am
LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:39 am
A slightly off-topic question, but important that I get an answer ASAP: does the Leaf Plus accelerate about the same in Eco mode as the 40kwh Leaf? I read that the full 214 HP is only available with Eco off, and I'm wondering if a friend would be intimidated by the Plus in Eco mode if she is ok with the 40kwh Leaf in Eco.
Yes, it does "seem" snappier to the point that I am having a problem deciding whether or not the LEAF is slower off the line than the Bolt. The reality is we then come to a limitation of tires in my case with the S. TBH; the LEAF has a ton of power in Eco B so not sure why anyone would need more than that in day to day driving.
Agreed that even in Eco B mode, on the S Plus, the tires are the traction limiting factor, Leaf easily spins them under full throttle, which gets us up to thruway speeds plenty quickly....
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:58 am

dmacarthur wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:21 am
LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:39 am
A slightly off-topic question, but important that I get an answer ASAP: does the Leaf Plus accelerate about the same in Eco mode as the 40kwh Leaf? I read that the full 214 HP is only available with Eco off, and I'm wondering if a friend would be intimidated by the Plus in Eco mode if she is ok with the 40kwh Leaf in Eco.
I can't exactly answer the question because I have not driven a 40KW Leaf, but the Plus in Eco really moves out of its own way very well. You (or housemate, as the case may be) will not be disappointed. My daughter has a plug-in Prius and the Leaf accelerates much faster. and of course max torque at all RPMs so no "hunting" for correct gear either. As far as range anxiety, the Leaf Plus still has limits but they are MUCH different than our older Leaf- unless we are travelling somewhere we essentially never think about battery status- plug it in at night with a simple mechanical timer so the charge never goes above about 80% and most nights no need to charge at all. Hope this helps!
Your "no need to charge at all" statement implies that you are charging to a level higher than you really need. I guess I am in a somewhat unique position in that my driving needs falls into two categories; work days (10 hours so little time to do much and nearly NO inclination to do anything) and non work days.

Work days; Since the move, the route is no longer a slam dunk so I usually take the quickest way which means backtracking to the freeway entrance so distance RT 27ish miles. Since the move (almost one month) the max driven has been 35 miles. So 4 days a week, I can set a clock on my driving needs. It is that predictable. SOC range as high as 73% (plugged into Volta while at movie) but normally around 25 to 50%.

Weekends; No real discernible pattern. Can be 10 to 150 miles so I could see charging to a higher level on weekends JIC but not any other time.

As far as the LEAF being faster than a Prius? OMG, even the 24 kwh version would blow the Prius off the line at half throttle!
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 92.44% SOH
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:22 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:39 am
A slightly off-topic question, but important that I get an answer ASAP: does the Leaf Plus accelerate about the same in Eco mode as the 40kwh Leaf? I read that the full 214 HP is only available with Eco off, and I'm wondering if a friend would be intimidated by the Plus in Eco mode if she is ok with the 40kwh Leaf in Eco.
The go pedal is not all or none. The driver is allowed to press down part way
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:25 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:58 am
Your "no need to charge at all" statement implies that you are charging to a level higher than you really need.
Meh.

He plugs in when the SoC reaches a low level and charges up to 80%.

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Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
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11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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