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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:50 am
by LeftieBiker
I tried to post that this morning, but the site froze on me. I don't remember where in the menu it is either, but it is there.

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:50 pm
by DaveinOlyWA
LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:50 am
I tried to post that this morning, but the site froze on me. I don't remember where in the menu it is either, but it is there.
Same here. Also had issues checking road conditions so rebooted modem and computer thinking that was the problem. Didn't fix either.

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:06 pm
by LeftieBiker
It was either this site, or a group of sites carried by a regional server. I had no trouble with other sites.

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:28 pm
by Triggerhappy007
LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:03 pm
Thanks. We're seeing a few 62kwh Leafs with the $12k factory incentives to lease applied. We can lease one for $200 a month IF they give her $9k for her PIP. She is on the fence, so it will probably not happen. I just wanted to give her the info.
Is she in NY as well? There's a rebate of at least $3500 on the Prius Prime. Some states in the NE has $4,500. Is the NY rebate applies to PHEV as well? Tax credit of $4502 on the Prius Prime.

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:12 pm
by DaveinOlyWA
Triggerhappy007 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:28 pm
LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:03 pm
Thanks. We're seeing a few 62kwh Leafs with the $12k factory incentives to lease applied. We can lease one for $200 a month IF they give her $9k for her PIP. She is on the fence, so it will probably not happen. I just wanted to give her the info.
Is she in NY as well? There's a rebate of at least $3500 on the Prius Prime. Some states in the NE has $4,500. Is the NY rebate applies to PHEV as well? Tax credit of $4502 on the Prius Prime.
She already has the Prime I think. Just looking for comparisons on the driving experience between the two cars.

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:03 pm
by Triggerhappy007
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:12 pm
Triggerhappy007 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:28 pm
LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:03 pm
Thanks. We're seeing a few 62kwh Leafs with the $12k factory incentives to lease applied. We can lease one for $200 a month IF they give her $9k for her PIP. She is on the fence, so it will probably not happen. I just wanted to give her the info.
Is she in NY as well? There's a rebate of at least $3500 on the Prius Prime. Some states in the NE has $4,500. Is the NY rebate applies to PHEV as well? Tax credit of $4502 on the Prius Prime.
She already has the Prime I think. Just looking for comparisons on the driving experience between the two cars.
No, she had the PIP - Plug In Prius, the predecessor to the Prius Prime. The PIP had a lousy 11 mile range. The Prius Prime isn't much better at 25 miles. I had a Prime before my Leaf.

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:15 pm
by LeftieBiker
The Prime is a different beast indeed. Better range and features (heat pump! I requested that for years. You're welcome), but worse driving position relative to the road, and a more cramped cargo area. I think it also has a liftover lip back there. The Leaf is well suited to her driving habits, so she will likely get the Prime, if she does anything at all.

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:27 am
by DougWantsALeaf
I am becoming more convinced that the Leaf is staying in the Nissan lineup for at least a few more years. They are continuing to expand markets for the car (Phillipines in 2021, Leaf Plus in Australia in 21) which doesn't seem like what you would do with an end of life car. While too late for us in this round of car buying, it would be very competively helpful if they added thermal mgmt. to the car for 21, even if just forced air cooled like Lexus.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/thedriven. ... -2021/amp/

I also saw Germany sold over 300 Leafs last month for the first time in almost 2 years (likely due to super cheap leases).

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:38 am
by SageBrush
Triggerhappy007 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:03 pm
The Prius Prime isn't much better at 25 miles.
It is vastly better, but Merkins cannot figure out basic arithmetic. It goes like this

Average 40 miles a day commute, of which 25 are electric
The remaining 15 miles are hybrid at ~ 55 mpg

That works out to a 0.25 gallon of petrol a day to commute in a Prius Prime
Vs
0.72 gallons in a Prius HEV
Vs
~ 1.5 gallons a day in garden variety average ICE

Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:44 pm
by LeftieBiker
Please remove the gratuitous insult from the above post.