DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:23 am

Most of the 100kW chargers are 200 amps max.. you need to find a 200kW Chademo. There were a couple listed in Oklahoma, but supposedly they also are only around 200amps.

The good news is that the 200amp chademos appear to have hit commodity pricing, and most of the new ones going up look to charge at that rate.
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:58 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:23 am
The good news is that the 200amp chademos appear to have hit commodity pricing
Link ?

My interest is from the POV of a Tesla owner, although the current CHAdeMO adapter is limited to 125 Amps. If it gets upgraded to 200 Amps (let alone 300 Amps) I may have to reconsider my lack of interest in the CHAdeMO network. At least until a CCS adapter comes along.

It does sound like the 62 kWh LEAFs support 300 Amps. If I'm not mistaken the 40 kWh LEAFs are 200 Amps, and will top out at ~ 73 kW no matter the charger or cable upgrade.
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:55 pm

That would be cool. Do you have any way to send ideas into Tesla? I know charging at 40kW feels very slow compared to charging at 75+.
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:45 am

SageBrush wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:58 pm
DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:23 am
The good news is that the 200amp chademos appear to have hit commodity pricing
Link ?

My interest is from the POV of a Tesla owner, although the current CHAdeMO adapter is limited to 125 Amps. If it gets upgraded to 200 Amps (let alone 300 Amps) I may have to reconsider my lack of interest in the CHAdeMO network. At least until a CCS adapter comes along.

It does sound like the 62 kWh LEAFs support 300 Amps. If I'm not mistaken the 40 kWh LEAFs are 200 Amps, and will top out at ~ 73 kW no matter the charger or cable upgrade.
125 is best I saw including a stint on a 200 amp machine
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:58 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:55 pm
I know charging at 40kW feels very slow compared to charging at 75+.
Imagine how it feels compared to 200+ kW

If I was inclined to use my influence with Elon, I would advocate for a CCS adapter.
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:02 am

SageBrush wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:58 am
DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:55 pm
I know charging at 40kW feels very slow compared to charging at 75+.
Imagine how it feels compared to 200+ kW

If I was inclined to use my influence with Elon, I would advocate for a CCS adapter.
Why not make all cars use the same standard?

CCS for all.
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:59 am

On the argument, one could say that Chademo is even more standard than ccs. It is identical globally, unlike ccs.


Again my opinion is that China will be the arbiter for it
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:37 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:59 am
On the argument, one could say that Chademo is even more standard than ccs. It is identical globally, unlike ccs.
Again my opinion is that China will be the arbiter for it
EU adopting the Chinese standard ? Not a chance

For one, they already have an extensive infrastructure in place
2, Flipping one country is hard, forget about all the countries in the EU
and 3, CCS type2 incorporates Type2 which is a 3 phase, common standard in the EU.
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:15 pm

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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:37 pm

coolMyBattery wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:15 pm
SOH 94.83%
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