salyavin
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:48 pm

Funny thing is you can usually beat the range if you use a lot of hypermiling techniques for example pulse and glide (when gliding do not let the regen engage) so as you say driving style and speed are all very important. It also affects gas cars we just tend to notice it less as we have less range anxiety and more gas stations than chargers.

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:50 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:13 pm
A more telling poll is how many try EVs and then go back to gassers. Remove the ones relocating and ones changing jobs and the rate drops to near zero.
I think there are a significant number of people who either get lied to about range, or who drive 80MPH and then give up the EV because it won't go far enough at that speed.
Yep. Unrealistic expectation combined with less than accommodating instrumentation. I laugh when I see posts bragging about "living on the edge" from people getting home with 2% SOC thinking they barely made it. :lol:
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 15, 235.1mi, 93.12% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:00 pm

Agreed. I think the single most important tip when driving to the extent of your range is to drive by efficiency number, which will almost always keep you out of trouble with range anxiety. It does require some basic math. So if you have 55kWh available and need to go 200 miles, you want efficiency above 3.7 to be safe. That's pretty easy if you keep it under 70, but more than many want to think about.

I consider it part of the sport of driving an ev.

My S+ is down to 4.4 miles/kWh this month with temps below freezing and highway driving. Even without heat, i have even seen some upper 3s after some faster highway runs.

I did run heat once, and was a little shocked at the power draw vs. the heat pump in The other Leaf.
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:22 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:00 pm
Agreed. I think the single most important tip when driving to the extent of your range is to drive by efficiency number, which will almost always keep you out of trouble with range anxiety. It does require some basic math. So if you have 55kWh available and need to go 200 miles, you want efficiency above 3.7 to be safe. That's pretty easy if you keep it under 70, but more than many want to think about.

I consider it part of the sport of driving an ev.

My S+ is down to 4.4 miles/kWh this month with temps below freezing and highway driving. Even without heat, i have even seen some upper 3s after some faster highway runs.

I did run heat once, and was a little shocked at the power draw vs. the heat pump in The other Leaf.
I haven't run the numbers yet but I am likely in the 3.6 mile/kwh range. For some reason, I have been doing the dash to work so its been 75 as much as possible with heat on at least half the time.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 15, 235.1mi, 93.12% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:29 pm

Interesting note to this video. The SL Plus from Japan (imported to Australia) came with 16" wheels. I wish that was an option here.

https://youtu.be/h6kGlCl1ZTc
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:45 pm

Ok, curiosity here.

12/5/2020 97.96 172.8 104.75 3072
12/12/2020 97.95 172.78 104.56 3106
12/22/2020 97.1 171.28 104.22 3183
12/24/2020 96.4 170.05 104.05 3220
12/31/2020 95.4 168.29 104.09 3353

I had thought my adjustment cycle was over well before the 24th, but it continued this week. Sadly 2.5% vanished. And I was so optimistic when the first adjustment was up.

(Date, SoH, AHr, Hx, mileage)
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:31 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:45 pm
Ok, curiosity here.

12/5/2020 97.96 172.8 104.75 3072
12/12/2020 97.95 172.78 104.56 3106
12/22/2020 97.1 171.28 104.22 3183
12/24/2020 96.4 170.05 104.05 3220
12/31/2020 95.4 168.29 104.09 3353

I had thought my adjustment cycle was over well before the 24th, but it continued this week. Sadly 2.5% vanished. And I was so optimistic when the first adjustment was up.

(Date, SoH, AHr, Hx, mileage)
Sucks but normal. I had an adjustment last nearly 2 weeks and it was also my biggest one as well. As far as the wheel size comment; What is stopping you? (other than the cost)
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 15, 235.1mi, 93.12% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:59 pm

When the SV+ is up for new tires, I think I will go down rim size.

Hey, one thought appeared to me looking at the data. Any chance battery temp at time of adjustment has an impact? My summer adjustments have been more favorable than the winter adjustments.
Last edited by DougWantsALeaf on Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:04 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:59 pm
When the SV+ is up for new tires, I think I will go down rim size.
Definitely want good before and after records on efficiency.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 15, 235.1mi, 93.12% SOH
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:24 pm

Hey, one thought appeared to me looking at the data. Any chance battery temp at time of adjustment has an impact? My summer adjustments have been more favorable than the winter adjustments.
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

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