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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:16 pm

In Norway, resistance heat is futile.
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:24 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:16 pm
In Norway, resistance heat is futile.
Don't you mean heat exchanger?
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 91.51% SOH
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:41 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:24 pm
LeftieBiker wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:16 pm
In Norway, resistance heat is futile.
Don't you mean heat exchanger?
There is this TV/cinema franchise called STAR TREK, when

Ah, never mind. It would take too long to explain.
Lefty was being clever by mixing word play with a pop culture reference
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:56 pm

I loved both references. If 7of9 pulled up in a Tesla, I might be convinced to come to the dark side.

In the chat, supposedly ID3, Niro, Leaf, and SR+ are all priced very close to each other.

Here, given deep discounts, I can understand the Leaf value play, especially if not doing many long road trips (10-15k under SR+, and maybe 5-7K under Niro).....but for even money, I guess I was/am surprised that it still sells so well in Norway. I agree, the Video is fairly complimentary to the Leaf.
Last edited by DougWantsALeaf on Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:06 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:41 pm
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:24 pm
LeftieBiker wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:16 pm
In Norway, resistance heat is futile.
Don't you mean heat exchanger?
There is this TV/cinema franchise called STAR TREK, when

Ah, never mind. It would take too long to explain.
Lefty was being clever by mixing word play with a pop culture reference
I got the ST reference (BIG fan here)
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 91.51% SOH
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:39 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:56 pm
I loved both references. If 7of9 pulled up in a Tesla, I might be convinced to come to the dark side.

In the chat, supposedly ID3, Niro, Leaf, and SR+ are all proved very close to each other.

Here, given deep discounts, I can understand the Leaf value play, especially if not doing many long road trips (10-15k under SR+, and maybe 5-7K under Niro).....but for even money, I guess I was/am surprised that it still sells so well in Norway. I agree, the Video is fairly complimentary to the Leaf.
Well, let me tell ya a story of a roadtrip taken by my Dad. But before we go there, a bit of background.

My Dad was a driving fiend. I was 12 before we ever spent a night in a hotel and we did a LOT of roadtrips. In June 1970, my Dad (this was before my Mother got her driver's license) drove from Ft. Greeley Alaska to Hancock Michigan in 3 days. That is "averaging" over 1,000 miles a day for 3 straight days.

He was Army and no matter where we were stationed, he drove us to Michigan EVERY summer for vacation driving straight thru. Luckily, Texas was the longest stretch at roughly 30 hours.
IOW, my Dad was not a stopper.

Anyway, back to the roadtrip. He decided to take his new wife (my Mother passed away in 2004) to see the country which included visiting ALL his old Army buddies including two who lived in Alaska. They had a Prius and his wife hated driving so he happily did it all. But during this 10 month long trip (the last 4 months was an around the World cruise) , he never drove more than 300 miles including a few days logging under 200 miles.

So the "roadtrip" experience covers almost as many scenarios as there are destinations.

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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:13 pm

One other point of note. In Bjorn's video look at the temperature spread between the temp sensors. 15+C, which is huge. I have never seen anything close to that on my car post DC sessions. Its the front cells getting quickly chilled and the underseat cells staying toasty warm.

Someone needs to find a way to get just a little airflow up there.
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:45 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:13 pm
One other point of note. In Bjorn's video look at the temperature spread between the temp sensors. 15+C, which is huge. I have never seen anything close to that on my car post DC sessions. Its the front cells getting quickly chilled and the underseat cells staying toasty warm.

Someone needs to find a way to get just a little airflow up there.
Amazing what a bit of airflow can do. The Soul EV vents passenger air to the battery pack with assist of a fan and it makes a huge difference in batt temps. Seems like an easy cheap fix?...
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 91.51% SOH
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:25 am

The earlier Ionic did the same I believe. It works pretty well, Nd likely why Lexus is going with just air cooling with the Ux300e.

No, not enough for the track, but plenty for normal driving, even road trips.
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Re: The 62kWh Battery Topic

Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:36 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:25 am
The earlier Ionic did the same I believe. It works pretty well, Nd likely why Lexus is going with just air cooling with the Ux300e.
Good for driving, not good enough for fast charging.
And remember, the air cooling is *into* the battery. None of this around the external case BS
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