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Re: Gen One Battery Upgrade Options

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:14 am
by DaveinOlyWA
coleafrado wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:50 am
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:24 pm
coleafrado wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:17 am


It shouldn't cost anywhere near that much unless you're paying someone $5k in labor to do the install. A few (very) wrecked 2018s appear to have sold for under $8k each a few weeks ago.
Labor for install only (owner supplied battery) is $1999 so thinking $5k is a bit high. As recently as last Summer, 40 kwh packs from salvage were easy to get in the $4,000-$5000 range. But they are hard to find at that price any more. There was one in Northern CA sold for $4500 a week or so ago but also saw several going for over $8,000 and yeah as someone mentioned, there is a cost besides the purchase price to deal with.

But anyone thinking they might be able to get this done for $7-$8k should start looking elsewhere. Now my price was a guess, nothing more. I can only repeat that because these are salvage without any set pricing, the price will likely vary. You need to call and find out.
Just to correct my quoted post: the 2018s I saw selling for about $7.5k had fairly limited rear-end damage and were probably being bought to be fixed up and flipped for $15-18k. As the wrecking sites hide sale prices after the auction, I haven't been able to catch the sale prices for any "very wrecked" 2018s. But it wouldn't make sense for an real wrecks to go for much more than $5k, assuming what's discussed here is still roughly valid.
I am sure good prices are out there but now seeing a lot more "battery only" prices. This is good in that extra costs to procure battery is less but then again, prices tend to be higher.

And....

Your link is 5 years old. I would suggest more recent data. This old stuff is really a waste of space.

Re: Gen One Battery Upgrade Options

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:27 pm
by rmay635703
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:14 am
coleafrado wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:50 am
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:24 pm


Labor for install only (owner supplied battery) is $1999 so thinking $5k is a bit high. As recently as last Summer, 40 kwh packs from salvage were easy to get in the $4,000-$5000 range. But they are hard to find at that price any more. There was one in Northern CA sold for $4500 a week or so ago but also saw several going for over $8,000 and yeah as someone mentioned, there is a cost besides the purchase price to deal with.

But anyone thinking they might be able to get this done for $7-$8k should start looking elsewhere. Now my price was a guess, nothing more. I can only repeat that because these are salvage without any set pricing, the price will likely vary. You need to call and find out.
Just to correct my quoted post: the 2018s I saw selling for about $7.5k had fairly limited rear-end damage and were probably being bought to be fixed up and flipped for $15-18k. As the wrecking sites hide sale prices after the auction, I haven't been able to catch the sale prices for any "very wrecked" 2018s. But it wouldn't make sense for an real wrecks to go for much more than $5k, assuming what's discussed here is still roughly valid.
I am sure good prices are out there but now seeing a lot more "battery only" prices. This is good in that extra costs to procure battery is less but then again, prices tend to be higher.

And....

Your link is 5 years old. I would suggest more recent data. This old stuff is really a waste of space.
The most common/plentiful Leafs are 2015 and down so simple case of supply demand

The only cheapish Nissan Leaf batteries are already degraded 24kwhr batteries some at 80% cap

https://batteryhookup.com/collections/m ... -2011-2012

Only an upgrade if your existing battery is worse

Re: Gen One Battery Upgrade Options

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 1:27 pm
by 69800
I cannot find EV works phone or address on Washington. Anyone know what it is?

Re: Gen One Battery Upgrade Options

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 4:07 pm
by coleafrado
69800 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:27 pm
I cannot find EV works phone or address on Washington. Anyone know what it is?
Do you mean EV Rides? Their phone number is 360-674-4545.

Re: Gen One Battery Upgrade Options

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 6:20 am
by DaveinOlyWA
69800 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:27 pm
I cannot find EV works phone or address on Washington. Anyone know what it is?
7869 NE Day Rd W Suite 203
Bainbridge Island WA 98110
888-212-3546
www.ev-works.us

Re: Gen One Battery Upgrade Options

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 7:00 am
by 69800
thanks Dave

Re: Gen One Battery Upgrade Options

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:51 am
by 69800
Dave
I saw your blog and would like to buy a new battery for $4500. Is there a dealer over there who is familiar with this deal? Or how do I buy it from nissan? Can I have EV works install it or does it have to be done by the dealer?
Mark

These questions should be asked on the forum since others might have the same question.

the $4500 pack is 24 kwh and from Nissan. Contact any dealer that is qualified to service LEAFs. This is the ONLY pack for sale from Nissan. If you are interested in getting a larger pack installed, it will cost more but then again, you will have better chemistry and almost twice the range.

https://daveinolywa.blogspot.com/2020/0 ... es-to.html

FYI; despite this being nearly 6 months old, there will be dealers who will only consult the catalog and quote that price. Don't worry about that. When they actually process the order, the correct price will populate which is $5499 with a $1000 core exchange credit. The exchange is required. You will have to pay labor and extra parts (only on 2011-12) so all in price is ranging from $5300 to 5900. (the low estimate was in WA where there is no sales tax for EV related work)

Re: Gen One Battery Upgrade Options

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:51 am
by 69800
Thanks Dave

Re: Gen One Battery Upgrade Options

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:25 am
by JoeHubris
coleafrado wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 4:07 pm
69800 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:27 pm
I cannot find EV works phone or address on Washington. Anyone know what it is?
Do you mean EV Rides? Their phone number is 360-674-4545.
The new phone number at EV Rides is 503 410-9742 (same owner, btw)

Re: Gen One Battery Upgrade Options

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:29 am
by Rusdy
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:17 am
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If Yes; Right now, Nissan is offering a very good deal at $4500 with required exchange plus labor so "about" $5500 or so and you would be getting a better pack than you had before so it should hold up better and you have the advantage of the 80% setting.
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Does anyone know for sure that Nissan's battery replacement (for 2012 leaf) is indeed the better pack? I 've read somewhere that Nissan's battery replacement is identical, which means, if one owns 'gen-1' battery (a.k.a. canary batteries), then the replacement is also a 'canary' type. This is indicated by the last digit of the battery part number.

For example, I've just replaced my battery (by Nissan) with battery part number NI-295B0-3NA6A. I've read somewhere the last digit 'A' is a canary type.

I'm trying to find it from the search engine, alas, can't find it.

P.S.:
Australian leaf owner here, where we only have 2012 leaf (the next one brought into the country is 2019 model onwards)