PedroinAlaska
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Used Leaf battery info - what does it mean?

Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:25 pm

Hi I'm looking at a used 2015 leaf. The car and I are in a small town in Alaska and the car was supposed to be from Arizona before being sold to its current owner by our town's used car lot. This would be my first electric car.

The post came with an image of the battery stats and I'm looking for some help deciphering it. Thanks!

AHr 46.35
SOH =74.63%
383.42V
Hx 52.73

13mV
SOC=66.9%

Odo is 47,600miles 104 QCs & 2115 L1/L2s

and the price is $7500

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Re: Used Leaf battery info - what does it mean?

Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:18 pm

SOH (state of health) correlates pretty much exactly with remaining battery capacity, so the car is down to 74.6% capacity. This relatively high loss of capacity is because it resided in a Hot region. Odometer mileage isn't a big factor with used Leafs. Please read my used Leaf buying guide.

https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic. ... 2&p=538030
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PedroinAlaska
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Re: Used Leaf battery info - what does it mean?

Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:07 am

Thank you!

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Re: Used Leaf battery info - what does it mean?

Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:24 pm

No problem. Feel free to copy the guide and post it elsewhere - just don't remove my name or change it.
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Re: Used Leaf battery info - what does it mean?

Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:54 pm

PedroinAlaska wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:25 pm
Hi I'm looking at a used 2015 leaf. The car and I are in a small town in Alaska and the car was supposed to be from Arizona before being sold to its current owner by our town's used car lot. This would be my first electric car.

The post came with an image of the battery stats and I'm looking for some help deciphering it. Thanks!

AHr 46.35
SOH =74.63%
383.42V
Hx 52.73

13mV
SOC=66.9%

Odo is 47,600miles 104 QCs & 2115 L1/L2s

and the price is $7500
Ahr is down 31% which is your capacity. This car is not in good shape. Don't know how used car prices go in your area but guessing they are a bit higher there. No sure this will be a good deal for you. I expect no more than 30 miles of range during Winter. I am guessing that you would rarely drive much farther than that but if you aren't parking the car in a somewhat insulated garage, this might not be worth the headache.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 16,686 mi, 92.44% SOH
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Re: Used Leaf battery info - what does it mean?

Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:30 pm

What daveinOLYWA said.
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PedroinAlaska
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Re: Used Leaf battery info - what does it mean?

Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:27 pm

Thanks!

Yes I'm seeing that battery is damaged. What would the cost be to replace a battery in a 2015?

Thanks again

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Re: Used Leaf battery info - what does it mean?

Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:19 pm

Too much! Estimates will range from $10,000 to $15,000. You could have a used pack installed; if you go that route, you can get a 40kwh pack from a 2018+ Leaf installed - IF you can find a shop that does those swaps.
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Re: Used Leaf battery info - what does it mean?

Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:10 pm

PedroinAlaska wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:27 pm
Yes I'm seeing that battery is damaged. What would the cost be to replace a battery in a 2015?
It's not damaged. It has degraded, just like all li-ion batteries do over time.

However, since you mention AZ, the amount of degradation isn't surprising. High temps are murder on Leaf's batteries. If you got the same model year with the same or more mileage from a mild climate (e.g. Seattle area, Oregon, city of San Francisco), it would almost certainly be much less degraded.

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Re: Used Leaf battery info - what does it mean?

Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:29 am

cwerdna wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:10 pm
PedroinAlaska wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:27 pm
Yes I'm seeing that battery is damaged. What would the cost be to replace a battery in a 2015?
It's not damaged. It has degraded, just like all li-ion batteries do over time.

However, since you mention AZ, the amount of degradation isn't surprising. High temps are murder on Leaf's batteries.
That is the bad news.

The good news is that degradation should be slow in Alaska. So if the car does what you need, with margin, it should continue to do so for a good long time.

You can NOT count on the car's range estimate, especially in cold weather. Dave's 30 mile estimate would likely be too high in interior Alaska and might be too high in coastal Alaska. In very cold temperatures the battery heater will run, draining the battery. If your commute has a open air parking lot, you will need to account for this as well.

Where in Alaska? Not exactly, but close enough so we have a clue as to climate. Put into your profile, so we can always see it, please.
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