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Ariya to Leaf Battery Upgrades?

Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:05 pm

Anyone think ariya battery could be compatible with the leaf or if a 3rd party dealer will make new leaf batteries to keep old leafs on the road? Or Nissan will start selling new leaf batteries at a fair price?

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Re: Ariya to Leaf Battery Upgrades?

Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:13 pm

I approved this topic, but I edited the title to make it less generic and more specific.

Anything is possible, but I think that having the 40kwh and 62kwh packs (with a bit more work) available to swap into older Leafs is all that's needed.
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Re: Ariya to Leaf Battery Upgrades?

Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:29 pm

Ya I agree 62 is more than enough. I just looked up the only place near me that upgrades leafs and the waiting list to get a 62 is 30 cars long. I have a 2018 40kwh with minimal degradation but i plan on doing a 2000km drive frequently and dont want to change cars so a newer battery chemistry might me helpful in the future. I'm thinking like 5 years from now when i start getting degradation. I would rather take my 40kwh pack out and use it off grid energy application and get something less prone to degradation without changing vehicles ideally. We will see how it goes. Maybe i can encourage someone to make a battery building company that is compatible with leafs lol

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Re: Ariya to Leaf Battery Upgrades?

Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:07 pm

Veganleaf wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:05 pm
Anyone think ariya battery could be compatible with the leaf
Seems highly unlikely. Ariya seems to be based upon a different platform and they already mentioned water cooling of batteries.

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Re: Ariya to Leaf Battery Upgrades?

Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:33 pm

Veganleaf wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:05 pm
Anyone think ariya battery could be compatible with the leaf or if a 3rd party dealer will make new leaf batteries to keep old leafs on the road? Or Nissan will start selling new leaf batteries at a fair price?
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Re: Ariya to Leaf Battery Upgrades?

Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:56 am

SageBrush wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:33 pm
::chuckles::
Finally something we agree on. :D
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Re: Ariya to Leaf Battery Upgrades?

Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:19 pm

Glad yall are having a good laugh

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Re: Ariya to Leaf Battery Upgrades?

Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:51 pm

The humor is based on Nissan's behavior in selling replacement batteries. It isn't really directed at you.
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Re: Ariya to Leaf Battery Upgrades?

Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:57 pm

Veganleaf wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:05 pm
Anyone think ariya battery could be compatible with the leaf?
If you flip that question around, you'll understand people's response since your original post...

What would motivate Nissan to make the Ariya battery pack fit in a LEAF?

There's no upside for Nissan, other than goodwill towards LEAF owners. Next, consider Nissan's track record RE meaningful goodwill towards LEAF owners, particularly for battery packs, and you'll understand the cynicism...
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Re: Ariya to Leaf Battery Upgrades?

Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:15 pm

The next generation LEAF will be built around the Nissan/Renault/Mitsubishi modular BEV platform. And no it won’t be backward compatible. The Ariya is the first car to be built on that platform.
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