SalemCat
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Grizzl E Charger ?

Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:08 pm

Thinking of buying a GRIZZL E charger.

Specifically a 14-50 with extra-long, extra thick premium Cable.

Thoughts ?

https://grizzl-e.com/

alozzy
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Re: Grizzl E Charger ?

Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:01 pm

Being Canadian, I obviously like the fact that they are designed and built in Canada :-)

That aside, I like that they have GFI protection and they seem like a quality product, at a competitive price. They are also UL and cUL certified.

Definitely worthy of consideration.
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jjeff
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Re: Grizzl E Charger ?

Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:40 am

Also a + for Canadian built, at least we'll know it won't come with some crapy hard vinyl cord that will get stiff as a board in any temps below 40F :D
I personally would also order the upgraded and longer cord and it's nice it sounds like you can d-rate the charging current, albeit it sounds like you have to open it up and flip some dip switches if you personally want to change it from how you ordered it. 40a is also nice, for future-proofing. The price also isn't too bad, not as cheap as most of the Chinese-built ones but less than other quality EVSEs.
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SageBrush
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Re: Grizzl E Charger ?

Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:46 am

Cords that get stiff in the cold are a PITA, and from what I have seen, the thicker the cord, the more unwieldy (and more likely to to get damaged) it is in the cold.
This EVSE may be different -- I don't know
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Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
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jjeff
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Re: Grizzl E Charger ?

Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:14 am

SageBrush wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:46 am
Cords that get stiff in the cold are a PITA, and from what I have seen, the thicker the cord, the more unwieldy (and more likely to to get damaged) it is in the cold.
This EVSE may be different -- I don't know
The thickness does make it heavier and a bit harder to bend but it's mainly the cord construction that can make it get stiff in cold temps. I used to really like the soft black rubber cords and while they generally stay flexible all the way to below zero they tend to really pick up dirt and dust as well as not the most protection for punctures. I've found the best cord to be a quality rubber cord but one that has a protective coating making it get far less dirty and easier to clean and also give it a bit more protection from abrasion. Again rubber is better than plastic/vinyl but coated rubber is the best. The orange cords while easy to clean and somewhat abrasion resistant get awful when cold, even in the 40s and many blue cords remain flexible in cold but are like the uncoated black rubber cords, coated blue or quality black seem to be the best for cold weather flexibility and abrasion/puncture resistance.
I'm really happy with my custom Chinese-built EVSE cord. It was the upgraded cord for both material and length, a bit better than 10 gauge(metric sizing) to easily handle 30a and performs well even in sub-zero temps. Of course, being long(26') and over 10 gauge(but it does have finer gauge strands to help with bending) it's still not what I'd call light and easy to handle but it's the best it could be. Unlike my off-the-shelf cheap Chinese EVSE that gets stiff as a board in the cold(sub-zero) and impossible to coil up in those cases, fine in the summer though.
2012 SL purchased used 2/'16
2013 S w/QC purchased new
Juicebox Premium 60a L1/L2 EVSE, Ebusbar 16a L1/L2 EVSE
'12 EVSEupgrade'd 20a L1/L2 EVSE, '13 EVSEupgrade'd adjustable 6-20a L2, 6-13a L1 EVSE
Zencar 13, 20, 30a L1/L2 portable EVSE
GE Durastation 30a

SageBrush
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Re: Grizzl E Charger ?

Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:45 am

I just looked at their website -- they offer 'premium' cords that stay pliable down to 15F
That's the ticket.

I like their products. I'm going to wait to see what 'smarts' are added in the near future and then decide whether to upgrade my reliable 32 Amp Clipper Creek. I want an EVSE that will play nice with a smart panel so that my (soon to be) PV is consumed at home as much as possible. That is asking a lot without a common standard, so I may have to wait. Or perhaps it will be enough to have Wi-Fi and and an open but secure API
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

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