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Re: Level 2 Charger Confusion

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:45 pm
by LakeLeaf
mitch672 wrote:
also, I have an "ACE in the hole", my electrician is a friend of mine, I sent him to the AV link for "electricians"' to sign up for the EVSE installer program, so maybe he will become an AV installer, and then might have access to AV EVSE's,...
Mitch - would you mind posting that link? Thanks.

Re: Level 2 Charger Confusion

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:57 pm
by mitch672
LakeLeaf wrote:
mitch672 wrote:
also, I have an "ACE in the hole", my electrician is a friend of mine, I sent him to the AV link for "electricians"' to sign up for the EVSE installer program, so maybe he will become an AV installer, and then might have access to AV EVSE's,...
Mitch - would you mind posting that link? Thanks.
Sure...

https://avportal.avinc.com/Contractors/ ... ation.aspx

Re: Level 2 Charger Confusion

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:47 pm
by DeaneG
It's hard to blame Nissan for wanting to control the initial charging rollout. It will certainly avoid a lot of 3-way finger pointing in case something doesn't work at your home.

Re: Level 2 Charger Confusion

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:31 pm
by johnr
All this is like me buying a standard gasoline-powered vehicle but being told I must only buy gas from their preferred partner (for the sake of this example, let's say Chevron) and I must sign a waiver if I want to be permitted to go to any other station. Oh, and I must shell out an extra $2000 to grant me access to Chevron stations. Ok, ok, I know this is a new type of car and all, but it still rubs me the wrong way.

Re: Level 2 Charger Confusion

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:41 pm
by garygid
Using an AV EVSE only cannot be right if we plan to charge in public at other-brand charging stations.

What does Nissan say about that?

Re: Level 2 Charger Confusion

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:59 pm
by EVDRIVER
garygid wrote:Using an AV EVSE only cannot be right if we plan to charge in public at other-brand charging stations.

What does Nissan say about that?

You must email them from the car before charging anywhere. LOL.

Re: Level 2 Charger Confusion

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:13 pm
by mitch672
garygid wrote:Using an AV EVSE only cannot be right if we plan to charge in public at other-brand charging stations.

What does Nissan say about that?
Gary,

They are trying to get the EVSE's installed in the simplest way possible, assuming no one knows anything about anything.

Most of us on this forum know 100 times more than the average EV buyer, and we can handle this issue, and it's rather insultng that they are doing this, but they must cater to the LCD (Lowest Common Denominator), hence the odd restrictions.

I'm sure if we all found third party EVSEs and had them installed, they wouldn't have a problem with it, they are just trying to gurantee no issues for themselves, for this first batch of EVs. Frankly, it doesn't even apply to me, I will be leafless until the 2nd half of 2011, from everything I hear.

I am getting my electrical system updated, and getting everything prepared, and if, I find an EVSE or can get one wholsale, I'll have my electrician install and set it up.. I have way more time than most here.

FYI, the Coulomb EVSE's have been certified to work with the Leaf already, those will be what you find in many commercial locations, anything using the "ChargePoint Network" will be Coulomb EVSEs

Re: Level 2 Charger Confusion

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:30 pm
by EVDRIVER
mitch672 wrote:
garygid wrote:Using an AV EVSE only cannot be right if we plan to charge in public at other-brand charging stations.

What does Nissan say about that?
Gary,

They are trying to get the EVSE's installed in the simplest way possible, assuming no one knows anything about anything.

Most of us on this forum know 100 times more than the average EV buyer, and we can handle this issue, and it's rather insultng that they are doing this, but they must cater to the LCD (Lowest Common Denominator), hence the odd restrictions.

I'm sure if we all found third party EVSEs and had them installed, they wouldn't have a problem with it, they are just trying to gurantee no issues for themselves, for this first batch of EVs. Frankly, it doesn't even apply to me, I will be leafless until the 2nd half of 2011, from everything I hear.

I am getting my electrical system updated, and getting everything prepared, and if, I find an EVSE or can get one wholsale, I'll have my electrician install and set it up.. I have way more time than most here.

FYI, the Coulomb EVSE's have been certified to work with the Leaf already, those will be what you find in many commercial locations, anything using the "ChargePoint Network" will be Coulomb EVSEs

+1, but I doubt any EVSE won't work.

Re: Level 2 Charger Confusion

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:40 pm
by evnow
I wonder whether we will have HDMI kind of incompatibilities in the beginning - hopefully UL will get a Leaf to test EVs.

Re: Level 2 Charger Confusion

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:17 pm
by EVDRIVER
evnow wrote:I wonder whether we will have HDMI kind of incompatibilities in the beginning - hopefully UL will get a Leaf to test EVs.

The control is basic, HDMI is the worst disaster of the CE world. It's not as though there is complex data transfer and communication, I would expect this to work well.