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Re: All "Future" battery technology thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:48 pm
by SanDust
saywatt wrote:I guess I screwed up and posted this link in the wrong place the other day. So here it is the right place.......I hope" :oops:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... zlers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If it works out it would be a very big deal.

Re: All "Future" battery technology thread

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:25 pm
by surfingslovak
saywatt wrote:I guess I screwed up and posted this link in the wrong place the other day. So here it is the right place.......I hope" :oops:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... zlers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Autoblog just ran the story as well, with a nicely redacted lead photo.

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Re: All "Future" battery technology thread

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:05 pm
by LTLFTcomposite
A 120kW battery pack with 500 mile range that only weighs three pounds. So put ten of them in, 30 pounds, less than the 12V battery weighs, and go from NY to LA and back on a single charge.

Oh but to dream :D

Of course gasoline would still be preferable because power plants use coal :lol:

Re: All "Future" battery technology thread

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:46 pm
by GeekEV
SanDust wrote:
If it works out it would be a very big deal.
Agreed! I tend not to get too excited about any purported breakthroughs (after all, how long have we been hearing about them), however I do hold high hope for anything from a company with a good track record of delivering on their research - that includes IBM, MIT, the various national labs, etc. Here's hoping...

Re: All "Future" battery technology thread

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:09 pm
by lpickup
GeekEV wrote: Agreed! I tend not to get too excited about any purported breakthroughs (after all, how long have we been hearing about them), however I do hold high hope for anything from a company with a good track record of delivering on their research - that includes IBM, MIT, the various national labs, etc. Here's hoping...
Yes...and for the record, as an IBMer I'm not speaking for IBM, and I'm not in any way involved with this project...but IBM is usually pretty tight lipped about things until things get "real". So I'm pretty optimistic as well.

Re: All "Future" battery technology thread

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:30 pm
by DaveinOlyWA
less than 2% of "breakthrus" lead to a consumer end product but if not for those people out there innovating and exploring the possibilities, we would not have a lot of what we enjoy today.

a totally off topic subject but just as amazing is IBM has now experimented successfully with memory consisting of 12 atoms. ya, 12 atoms! will they ever be able to make it commercially viable? who knows but that is how products like Suri start out. just one innovation

Re: All "Future" battery technology thread

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:10 pm
by Nubo
jkirkebo wrote:
Clarissa wrote:It sounds amazing. That kind of batteries would absolutely change the way things work. Surely, there is a question of marketing and how much the big shots are ready to allow them to get to the market.
Personally, I find the ability to charge at home one of the best attributes of current EVs. I would never buy one that couldn't be charged at home, where I had to go to a "battery" station instead.
Oh, God yes. I've only "missed" maybe 3 or 4 gasoline fill-ups so far (and "missed" is DEFINITELY not the right word!). But I feel so relieved and liberated I've hardly stopped smiling. Unless I get a sudden hankering for beef jerky or lottery tickets I will be quite happy to continue passing stations by.

Re: All "Future" battery technology thread

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:40 pm
by camasleaf
Old news but here is "The 500000 miles battery":

http://epa.gov/oppt/nano/p2docs/casestudy3_house.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Found this while looking for batteries for a solar system. Impressive charge/discharge rate and number of cycles. The energy density is little for EV applications.

Re: All "Future" battery technology thread

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:15 pm
by Reddy
...and speaking about new modifications to the Li air battery chemistry...
http://energy.gov/americas-next-top-ene ... rials-corp

"Developments by PNNL and Princeton of lithium air batteries incorporating graphene as a cathode material set the highest energy storage capacity ever recorded, 15,000 milliamp hours per gram. The impact for consumer products will be dramatic. Electric cars with a current range of 100 miles after 10 to 12 hours of recharge will have a range of 400 miles."

Don't hold your breath, but our kids might see this.

Reddy

Re: All "Future" battery technology thread

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:35 am
by LindsayNB
http://www.thechargingpoint.com/news/20 ... range.html
In the build up to the unveiling of the 2012 Zoe small car at next month’s Geneva Motor Show, French magazine BFM Business reports that Renault will release a new version in 2014, with a maximum range of 220 miles. That’s more than double the range of the 2012 Zoe's 100 miles, which is also the current market standard.
An interesting advantage of the "lease the battery" and quick swap battery approach is that with the buy-the-battery model you probably wouldn't want to announce that an upcoming model will have twice the range of your current model, for fear of people waiting for the new model but it's ok if you are leasing the battery and they can swap-up to the new battery when it arrives.

Still just a rumor, we'll see what comes out in Geneva.