mkjayakumar
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Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:45 pm

.... and I bet there is a large percentage of Americans, if were to take a guess as high as 50%+ who fit that driving pattern, who can easily get by on a Nissan supplied L1, with a secondary ICE car just for those occasional trips..

Everyone of my friends were surprised to know that I could charge this without an expensive additional charger expense.
2011 Leaf, 30K miles, returned after 24 month lease.
Currently leasing 2014 Leaf SV.

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TRONZ
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Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:04 pm

It's funny but I wonder if Nissan has sorta discouraged some potential EV buyers by constantly showing Aerovironments L2 everywhere the LEAF goe?! It's optional and people like simple and like to save money. I think Nissan should start emphasizing these three advantages... and with 6.6 coming, charging options are well covered.
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2011 LEAF SL VIN#202, Delivered 01.30.11. Now, by far, the oldest LEAF in Colorado.

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RegGuheert
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Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:57 pm

TRONZ wrote:It's funny but I wonder if Nissan has sorta discouraged some potential EV buyers by constantly showing Aerovironments L2 everywhere the LEAF goe?!
They did their best to drive us off with their clever sales-prevention campaign in which they forced us to schedule a company to come out to our house to give us a quote for an overpriced EVSE installation. Then they failed to show up on the date. We wrote off Nissan and the LEAF at that point.

Really, who needs a $2500 EVSE installation if you haven't even gotten to see the car, yet?

Nissan is fortunate that we did not like the Chevy Volt and that our local dealer had a LEAF that suited us in stock and a VERY gracious salesperson to hear me out when I came through the door in my ire! :evil:

And the sales person who sold us the demo LEAF said I was the second person who told him the EVSE people were no-shows. He also told me only one of the four customers who bought LEAFs from him already had the EVSE installed at the time of delivery. AND he had no record of our interest in the LEAF forwarded to him from Nissan.

Yeah, I'll guarantee they lost customers over this issue!
RegGuheert
2011 Leaf SL Demo vehicle
10K mi. on 041413; 20K mi. (55.7Ah) on 080714; 30K mi. (52.0Ah) on 123015; 40K mi. (49.8Ah) on 020817; 50K mi. (47.2Ah) on 120717; 60K mi. (43.66Ah) on 091918.
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planet4ever
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Location: Morgan Hill, CA, south of San Jose

Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:27 pm

Reddy wrote:I leave the Nissan-provided cable plugged into the 120 VAC plug pretty much all the time. I've had only a couple of out-of-town excursions where I brought the cable with me.
Reddy is right. Dragging an EVSE with you everywhere you go is another symptom of inappropriate range anxiety. I was so sure I would need it that I got a second one, upgraded to 240v. What a waste. The upgraded one is all I ever use. I have plugged the original 120v EVSE in twice in 11 months, and neither was at all necessary. I just wanted it to look like I had a good excuse for taking an EV parking space that didn't have a J1772.

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tcherniaev
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Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:45 am

I started out with L1 charger my first couple of months of ownership, but noticed that for the amount of driving I was doing L2 was necessary. I would have days when I get home late with 10 miles left, and by morning I would only get back up to half-charge... With L2 it does not matter if I get home in a turtle mode at midnight, by 7 am next morning I have a full charge again.

I also noticed that having L2 at home reduces my desire to mess with an opportunity charging during the day because I know that as long as I can limp home I will have a full charge in the morning.

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TomT
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Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:57 am

I have used mine twice. Once, very early on, when there were few public L2s: It was late and I needed a small boost to get home, and there were no nearby open Nissan dealers where I could use their L2. The second time was very recently when we had our severe rain and weather here and I knew I'd need to charge while at work due to the dramatically reduced range.
planet4ever wrote:I have plugged the original 120v EVSE in twice in 11 months, and neither was at all necessary. I just wanted it to look like I had a good excuse for taking an EV parking space that didn't have a J1772.
Leaf SL 2011 to 2016, Volt Premier 2016 to 2019, and now:
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LTLFTcomposite
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Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:59 am

I sleep better with the L2's beefy #8 and #10 wires. The plug was getting warm on the L1 plugged into a 15A circuit. Not good for me.
LTL
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yoyofella
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Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:19 am

I've had the car for 10 months and about 12.5k miles, I charge at my carport 95% of the time, all using Level 1 trickle charging. I've had no problem thus far.

One recommendation: Get a short, high current pigtail connector to plug into the EVSE to reduce the wear and tear when you have to plug/unplug the EVSE.

Leaf's EVSE is engineered to take this repeated punishment, but I heard the Volt's EVSE is not as robust and repeated pulling of the plug can cause wear and tear.

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