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How much trickle charging is too much?

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:57 pm
by sdittm1
Just got my Leaf over the weekend.

The manual states trickle(110v) charging isn't recommended as the primary source, but I didn't see any details regarding how much total time using 110v is too much.

How much trickle charging would be too much in combination with a L2 charger?

Thanks in advance.

Steve

Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:03 pm
by walterbays
sdittm1 wrote:Just got my Leaf over the weekend.

The manual states trickle(110v) charging isn't recommended as the primary source, but I didn't see any details regarding how much total time using 110v is too much.

How much trickle charging would be too much in combination with a L2 charger?

Thanks in advance.

Steve
Do all you like. The only reason they don't recommend it as the primary source is they think it's so slow you'll be dissatisfied with the car. It won't hurt anything.

Besides the slow speed, the only other disadvantages are 1) inconvenience of unpacking and repacking the L1 EVSE every day, or the risk of being without it some time you need it away from home if you just leave it in the garage; and 2) slightly worse charging efficiency so you'll use a little more electricity from the wall to put the same electricity into the battery.

Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:23 pm
by sdittm1
Thanks!!

Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:09 pm
by mkjayakumar
Thanks Walterbays. I had the same question Nd thanks for answering.

Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:14 pm
by thankyouOB
get a milkbox from the supermarket and keep the EVSE in there, if you use the EVSE daily.

Just wind it into it like a snake.
very convenient. much better than putting those velcro straps on it and stuffing it into the little napsack.

Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:57 am
by mkjayakumar
anything that will save me from another $2500 from the L2 expense..

Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:21 am
by ebill3
As stated, there is no problem with L1 charging. But, if interested, you can upgrade your Nissan supplied EVSE to L2 (240 volts) for less than $300.

Check: http://www.evseupgrade.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

Bill

Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:38 am
by TRONZ
If using L1 alot were a problem after 14 months and 400+ L1 sessions, I would be in a world of hurt. I think major temperature swings and extended high/low states of charge are a far more important concern. IMHO, heat is the number one thing to avoid. So far the LEAF pack design has been remarkably stable in temperature for having no active thermal management system.

Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:57 am
by surfingslovak
If you don't have easy access to 240V, such as a dryer outlet, and would like to do L2 charging at some point, this thread is worth reading through as well:

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=102463" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: How much trickle charging is too much?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:07 pm
by Reddy
The Leaf easily meets most of my driving needs. I've only L2 charged twice (at the dealership) in nearly 9 months. I leave the Nissan-provided cable plugged into the 120 VAC plug pretty much all the time. I've had only a couple of out-of-town excursions where I brought the cable with me. It may be years before there are any commercial L2's within 60 miles of me. There's a dealership in Walla Walla so that's one, kinda. Ellensburg is the next closest (100-120 mi uphill 2000 ft and upwind, good luck hypermileing into that).

L1 is easy if you average less than 50 mi per day or only have an occasional 70+ mi trip.

Reddy
(out in the sticks of Eastern WA State).