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Summary of EVSE options

Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:40 pm

Is anybody willing to create a summary of EVSE solutions on the market with some brief summary of pros and cons of each? A bit of work, but I have a feeling it would be MUCH appreciated by expectant Leaf owners like myself (December.)

I've spent a lot of time trying to do the research on the forum, but the more I read the more confused I become. I'd like something my own electrician could install - even if he's not "certified" by the vendor.

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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:45 pm

want data?
buy the blink and have it self-installed if you cant get into EVProject.

otherwise get AV.

As an alternative, you can go with Ingineer's upgrade of your EVSE from Nissan, but you will need a dedicated 40 amp 240 volt line.
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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:26 pm

Scowbay wrote:Is anybody willing to create a summary of EVSE solutions on the market with some brief summary of pros and cons of each? A bit of work, but I have a feeling it would be MUCH appreciated by expectant Leaf owners like myself (December.)

I've spent a lot of time trying to do the research on the forum, but the more I read the more confused I become. I'd like something my own electrician could install - even if he's not "certified" by the vendor.

Or you can just look at what has already been done at:
http://www.pluginrecharge.com/p/evse-vendors.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's a reasonable place to start the search and then look at the many comments on this forum.
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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:33 pm

Thanks - the list is what I was looking for.

I'm curious whether there is any evolving consensus on best over all option. Seems like lots of problems with Blink. It's not clear how to purchase AV directly without their install (no response to my web inquiry.)

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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:42 pm

No problems reported with the AV unit (what I have, happy I got it). Cash and carry is $995 last I checked.
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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:53 pm

thankyouOB wrote:want data?
buy the blink and have it self-installed if you cant get into EVProject.

otherwise get AV.

As an alternative, you can go with Ingineer's upgrade of your EVSE from Nissan, but you will need a dedicated 40 amp 240 volt line.
One small correction: the EVSE Upgrade requires a 20 amp 240 volt line. If one has the electric panel in a garage, it is an easy DIY project.
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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:53 pm

Upgrade the OEM unit for about $332.

Good: low price, portable, easy to make adapters to fit different plugs, only requires 20 amp circuit(full 16a charging). Level 1, 240v upgrade only needs 15a circuit(12a charging). Truly universal charging that works on both 120v and 240v.
Bad: Must sent it in so no charging a couple days(mine took 8), could be an issue at end of lease but I think they will exchange for an original at no cost. Does not lend itself that good for permanent mount although some do and are happy.
http://evseupgrade.com/?2

AV
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=614
Full service and warranty with installation services. Very reliable. Has holster.
Somewhat expensive especially the install. Available on ebay for self install or your own electrician.
Seems bulky and protrudes a bit more than needed from the wall.
Requires 40 amp circuit. Rated for outdoor use.
Standard is 18' cord but 25' cord seems to be available on request.
Look for this one on ebay for about $625 May have sold out at this time (Jan/2012)

SPX $950 + shipping
https://homecharging.spx.com/portal/Dis ... =11&menu=8
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1442
Portable and does have a mounting system but no cord hook. Adjustable to be usable on 15, 20, 30 & 40 amp circuits. Pigtail can be swapped to match the outlet you have. Adapters can be made for adapting to different plugs on the road.
Some report issues with not charging when Leaf timer is used. Appears to be when only end time is set Leaf does not charge.
Rated for outdoor use.

Leviton 160
http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ProductD ... site=10251
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=822
Available at Home Depot for $999. Available elsewhere ~$900 shipped, no tax.
http://www.garrett-smarthome.com/search ... ype=&scat=
Mounting kit probably not needed unless you will be moving this item frequently. Mounting plate is included.
Only requires 20 amp circuit. Limited to 16 amp to vehicle which will charge current leaf at full speed. Future Leaf or other cars may accept more power in the future. It will still charge all just fine just at the 16 amp rate.
Semi portable with plug in pigtail. Wall plate mount would allow easy removal to a different location. Rated for outdoor use.
Seems a bit of an industrial look with the blue metal box. But fairly compact and low profile. Mounting plate has cord hook but no holster.
Some say mounting plate not needed, just bolt it to the wall. Mount plate may add portability.

Leviton Evr-Green 320
List is $1,495 for 25' cord and $1,395 for an 18' cord. Only NEMA 6-50 plug in available. No J-plug holster.
http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/SectionD ... site=10251

Schneider $799 shipped from Home Depot. Ordered mine today (9/23) HD says back ordered but they are now allowing the purchase.
http://products.schneider-electric.us/p ... g-station/
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R ... reId=10051
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=2630
Designed for hardwire only. Although it would seem you could put a cord on it. (I did)
Indoor use only. Although there is an outdoor unit available for more money as part of the commercial applications.
Requires 40 amp circuit. 18' cord. Best looking, low profile. Cord hook looks basic and no holster. Cord hook is painted steel and very strong.
Works with ALL Leaf timer settings. Has delay timer and length of charging indicator. Schneider delay works with Leaf timers.

GE Wattstation
http://www.geindustrial.com/cwc/Dispatc ... -WallMount
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=770
http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware ... ogId=10053
Should be available soon at Lowes.com. Rumor is a couple stores have a few on display. Price $1,000 when found in store.
Looks like $999 shipped from Home Depot.com $750 + shipping from http://store.ontility.com/products/ev-c ... ations.htm
Available in different colors. Seems bulky large and more profile at 6" deep. Very nice looking if you have the wall space.
Requires 40 amp circuit, has a nice holster. Outdoor rated. Cord is just 16'
Has an OFF mode to draw zero power when not in use
HomeDepot states "limited lifetime warranty" :) As of 6-25-2012 a few reports of damage to the Leaf charger (diode?) and hearsay is the Nissan is working with GE for fix.

Siemens Versicharge 30A Black Bottom Fed Electric Vehicle Charger
http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware ... reId=10051
http://w3.usa.siemens.com/powerdistribu ... harge.aspx
Price $999 at home Depot. 30a & 70a models available.
30a model can be dialed down for circuits less than 40 amps. 7.2 to 1.8 kW
Nice holster. Includes 20' charging cable and delay timer.

Legrand/Pass and Seymour
http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardware ... ogId=10053
http://www.legrand.us/passandseymour/ev-chargers.aspx
Good price at $750. Nice coiled cord if that works for you. Have not seen this cord except on Voltec that is not available for Leaf owners.
Nice holster. This could give Schneider some competition. Cord listed at 24' is longest available but I would question if it was practical to streatch the cord out fully.
This one is just 16 amps similar to Leviton 160. Great alternative if limited main power is available.

Clippercreek
http://www.clippercreek.com/index.php?o ... Itemid=212
Looks portable but instructions indicate permanent mount. Different models for 15amp, 20amp & 25 amp circuits.
$995 on the website, outdoor rated. Cord length not specified.


Probably some others

I use Schnieder virtually every day, works perfect since about Sept 2011.
EVSEUpgrade in use as needed V1 (12 amp) modified about Oct 2011.
Once a week I use Leviton 160, works perfect since June 2012.

There are individual threads on each with more details.
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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:55 pm

Can't say I'd recommend the Blink, even though I got mine free; the unit fails to charge an need to be rebooted every six weeks or so, and it notoriously bad at connecting to the wireless network (something that's required when you get them free).

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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:55 pm

I'd add in the Clipper Creek LCS-25 at $995. It's 20A, so a bit more powerful than the 16A ones. Requires a 25A breaker.

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Re: Summary of EVSE options

Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:29 pm

Don't forget the EV Charge America EVSE! Great product, fast shipping, reliable and easy to use. They take credit cards so you can charge back when your unit never arrives. Hurry there is a wait list!

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