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Re: Agreement on Charging Standards?

Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:57 am

Seven automakers have agreed to use a common single-port fast-charging system for electric cars in the United States and Europe. The goal is to reduce development costs and make it easier for consumers to adopt electric vehicles.

Audi, BMW, Daimler, Ford, General Motors, Porsche and Volkswagen will use identical charge plugs and the same system for communication between the charger and the car in their electric vehicles.

The automakers say they reached the agreement after studying current EV charging strategies and connectors.

The agreement should also help make it easier for governments and utilities to plan and develop infrastructure for electric-vehicle recharging.

The standardized charging ports and recharge stations will be compatible with the J1772 port now used for Level 1 and Level 2 chargers in the United States.

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Re: Agreement on Charging Standards?

Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:11 am

This is a better article:
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10 ... -charging/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As Tom Saxton mentions in the article, it seems dumb to decide this now without considering the new Tesla Model S connector.
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Re: Agreement on Charging Standards?

Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:23 am

He added that in the next few months SAE would begin testing the prototype combo charging system in production vehicles. If the testing is successfully concluded, a final standard could be published by the organization in the first quarter of 2012.
What production vehicles are they talking about? Are there DC quick charge capable production vehicles available from the manufactures in question? I have yet to see any in their showrooms for purchase myself.
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Re: Agreement on Charging Standards?

Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:55 pm

I'm just curious... How can it be "standard" if there are a dozen different versions? The only thing that seems to be "standard" is the use of electricity to recharge the car! :lol:
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Re: Agreement on Charging Standards?

Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:38 pm

The (SAE) "agreement" is only between certain manufacturers that are not producing QC EV's or QC stations. I am far more interested in the "agreement" between manufacturers that are selling QC EV's and QC stations. When (if) SAE arrives it will simply be a second standard and rolled out based on demand.
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Re: Agreement on Charging Standards?

Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:41 pm

TRONZ wrote:The (SAE) "agreement" is only between certain manufacturers that are not producing QC EV's or QC stations. I am far more interested in the "agreement" between manufacturers that are selling QC EV's and QC stations. When (if) SAE arrives it will simply be a second standard and rolled out based on demand.
Agreed TRONZ, and pretty much what I said in the Spark thread....no EVSE manufacturer that I'm aware of has signed on to this abomination (or the Tesla one either, for that matter).
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Re: Agreement on Charging Standards?

Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:33 pm

News story: Seven auto makers, none of which is building any EV's today, and none of which have any future plans to build any EV with quick charge capability, have agreed on a standard for EV quick charging which would of course apply only to cars made by other manufacturers. The new standard is incompatible with 100% of the world wide installed base of quick charging stations, and with all quick charge capable EV's.

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Re: Agreement on Charging Standards?

Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:55 pm

all of these manufacturers Audi, BMW, Daimler, Ford, General Motors, Porsche and Volkswagen are planning on offering BEVs, perhaps once they settle on a standard connector they will offer quick charge capability.. The important thing is that chademo cars and chargers can be adapted to the new standard. Luckily very few cars using the Chademo connector have been sold..

The good news is that the Europeans, Japanese and Americans will use the same J1772 connector.. only the Chinese are using something else.

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Re: Agreement on Charging Standards?

Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:20 pm

mwalsh wrote:...no EVSE manufacturer that I'm aware of has signed on to this abomination (or the Tesla one either, for that matter).
Does anybody know if Tesla ever offered its EVSE for an international standards?

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