evnow
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If you don't want to do any searching - let it be. I'm not going to do the work for you.davewill said:
ps : I'm likely to move all the OT posts to a new thread and keep this thread clean with only reports of m/kwh.
I Beat EPA's 2.9 Miles/KWh : Report Your Monthly Mileage
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ps : I'm likely to move all the OT posts to a new thread and keep this thread clean with only reports of m/kwh.
LEAFfan
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davewill said:
I was waiting for the conditions to be the same especially the ambient temp...it needs to be in the 70's so I'll probably do it tomorrow afternoon.
edatoakrun
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Below are my CW reports, available at the bottom of the "regional rankings" page.
These numbers need to be corrected for charge efficiency (relative to EPA m/kWh) but do seem to be entirely consistent with my driving, since I had the NTB11-041 CW update done on 8/3.
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=5423" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think I can explain why the monthly results are not showing the approximately 5% reduction in cold weather m/kWh performance, I posted here:
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=6701&start=60" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I do a lot of my driving on mountain roads, and with both wet surfaces, and more driving after dark, my speed has often been restricted. Also, the (about 5%) lower cold weather total available battery capacity, has also meant that I need to watch the bars closely on some of my longer drives, and slow down. For instance, I used 18 kWh (CW report) for the 77.7 mile drive I made on 11/13, went from 11 bars to 1 bar, and got the VLB warning for the first time (when I wasn't trying to) since I got the car. I also haven't had to use the heater very much, other than pre-heating, which probably is not reported as "energy used" by CW.
Interesting that CW has moved me back up to "gold". Both a larger proportion of LEAFs now have probably now had the update, to correct CW, and weather has dropped others' m/kWh results, more than mine.
Happy Thanksgiving, to all.
These numbers need to be corrected for charge efficiency (relative to EPA m/kWh) but do seem to be entirely consistent with my driving, since I had the NTB11-041 CW update done on 8/3.
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=5423" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think I can explain why the monthly results are not showing the approximately 5% reduction in cold weather m/kWh performance, I posted here:
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=6701&start=60" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I do a lot of my driving on mountain roads, and with both wet surfaces, and more driving after dark, my speed has often been restricted. Also, the (about 5%) lower cold weather total available battery capacity, has also meant that I need to watch the bars closely on some of my longer drives, and slow down. For instance, I used 18 kWh (CW report) for the 77.7 mile drive I made on 11/13, went from 11 bars to 1 bar, and got the VLB warning for the first time (when I wasn't trying to) since I got the car. I also haven't had to use the heater very much, other than pre-heating, which probably is not reported as "energy used" by CW.
Interesting that CW has moved me back up to "gold". Both a larger proportion of LEAFs now have probably now had the update, to correct CW, and weather has dropped others' m/kWh results, more than mine.
Happy Thanksgiving, to all.
Yanquetino
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It might be helpful if a moderator could post a "sticky" poll asking the average MPkWh that Leaf owners are experiencing. We could then quickly and easily see at a glance what the overall average is to date, and how it compares with EPA's estimate. Just a suggestion.
Back on topic...
My numbers for NOV-2011:
a. 507 miles
b. 90.9 kWh Wall (Blink)
c. 5.58 miles/kWh Wall(Blink)
e. 6.3 miles/kWh Carwings (yeah right)
f. $8.18
g. 1.6 cents/mile
My numbers dropped a little since last month, mainly in this last cold and humid week in TN. I tried to limit the use of the heater/defroster, but the humidity and temperatures made it impossible to not lose a few kW. Still, 8 bucks and some change compared to the ~$75 in gas it would have cost me with my old ICE is nice.
I can smile as I update my sig to show my new lifetime wall-to-wheels figures. It took me a month to figure it out (as my lower first monthly numbers showed me), but driving efficiently and getting 100+ miles out of a charge in this car is very easy for me now (120 miles on one 100% charge being my record).
My numbers for NOV-2011:
a. 507 miles
b. 90.9 kWh Wall (Blink)
c. 5.58 miles/kWh Wall(Blink)
e. 6.3 miles/kWh Carwings (yeah right)
f. $8.18
g. 1.6 cents/mile
My numbers dropped a little since last month, mainly in this last cold and humid week in TN. I tried to limit the use of the heater/defroster, but the humidity and temperatures made it impossible to not lose a few kW. Still, 8 bucks and some change compared to the ~$75 in gas it would have cost me with my old ICE is nice.
I can smile as I update my sig to show my new lifetime wall-to-wheels figures. It took me a month to figure it out (as my lower first monthly numbers showed me), but driving efficiently and getting 100+ miles out of a charge in this car is very easy for me now (120 miles on one 100% charge being my record).
evnow
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TNleaf said:
If you are getting 5.58 m/kwh at the wall you could easily be getting 6.3 m/kwh (88% charging efficiency). Infact it might be higher ...
evnow
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Here is mine for November. Another fall from October's 4.6 (and Sept's 5.2).
Mainly the drop in temperature - but also a lot of trips we made together that increased the use of heater.
Mainly the drop in temperature - but also a lot of trips we made together that increased the use of heater.
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Month : Nov-2011
a. 833 Miles
b. 272 kWh (Wall - Blink)
c. 3.1 Miles/kWh (Wall)
d. 3.8 Miles/kWh (Leaf)
e. ? Miles/kWh (CarWings)
f. $30
g. 3.6 Cents/Mileevnow
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Here is mine for December. The m/kWh seems to be stabilizing. But, the wall to wheel m/kWh actually came out to be exactly what EPA rated at !
Here is the entire record at a glance.
Here is the range vs average temperature (as reported by weather stations, rather than what I've logged).
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Month : Nov-2011
a. 979 Miles
b. 339 kWh (Wall - Blink - Estimated)
c. 2.9 Miles/kWh (Wall)
d. 3.5 Miles/kWh (Leaf)
e. 3.4 Miles/kWh (CarWings)
f. $37
g. 3.8 Cents/MileHere is the entire record at a glance.
Here is the range vs average temperature (as reported by weather stations, rather than what I've logged).
DaveinOlyWA
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evnow said:Here is mine for December. The m/kWh seems to be stabilizing. But, the wall to wheel m/kWh actually came out to be exactly what EPA rated at !
Code:Month : Nov-2011 a. 979 Miles b. 339 kWh (Wall - Blink - Estimated) c. 2.9 Miles/kWh (Wall) d. 3.5 Miles/kWh (Leaf) e. ? Miles/kWh (CarWings) f. $37 g. 3.8 Cents/Mile
Here is the entire record at a glance.
Here is the range vs average temperature (as reported by weather stations, rather than what I've logged).
your lifetime stats seem a bit out of sync
evnow
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Oh yes - couple of items didn't include the Nov/Dec numbers. corrected.DaveinOlyWA said:
JPWhite
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Lifetime cents/mile looks way too low. lower than any of the monthly numbers.
evnow
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JPWhite said:
Argh .... I should check before posting. Corrected.
JPWhite
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evnow said:
We are all capable of making mistakes. There was one time way way ago I remember I made a mistake as well
(Like every five minutes).The chart and graph are cool BTW.
dgpcolorado
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January mileage:
Wall-to-wheels: 3.2 miles/kWh [679.7 miles/210 kWh = 3.24]
Dash: 4.0 miles/kWh
Notes: The wall-to-wheels included some preheating, so the numbers can't be used for charging efficiency. Driving temperatures were mostly at or below freezing but car is charged in a garage that is above freezing. Elevation range: 8000 feet to 5750 feet. All driving includes steep hills. No multi-lane highway driving at all. Some of the driving is on dirt roads.
Wall-to-wheels: 3.2 miles/kWh [679.7 miles/210 kWh = 3.24]
Dash: 4.0 miles/kWh
Notes: The wall-to-wheels included some preheating, so the numbers can't be used for charging efficiency. Driving temperatures were mostly at or below freezing but car is charged in a garage that is above freezing. Elevation range: 8000 feet to 5750 feet. All driving includes steep hills. No multi-lane highway driving at all. Some of the driving is on dirt roads.
dgpcolorado
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February mileage:
Wall-to-wheels: 3.3 miles/kWh
Dash: 4.1 miles/kWh
Notes: The wall-to-wheels included some preheating, so the numbers can't be used for charging efficiency. Driving temperatures were mostly at or below freezing but car is charged in a garage that is above freezing. Elevation range: 8000 feet to 5750 feet. All driving includes steep hills. No multi-lane highway driving at all. Some of the driving is on dirt roads.
Wall-to-wheels: 3.3 miles/kWh
Dash: 4.1 miles/kWh
Notes: The wall-to-wheels included some preheating, so the numbers can't be used for charging efficiency. Driving temperatures were mostly at or below freezing but car is charged in a garage that is above freezing. Elevation range: 8000 feet to 5750 feet. All driving includes steep hills. No multi-lane highway driving at all. Some of the driving is on dirt roads.
N1ghtrider
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Dec. dash & Carwings 5.2 m/kWh
Jan. dash & Carwings 5.2 m/kWh
Feb. dash & Carwings 5.2 m/kWh
$.0225 cents per mile.
Jan. dash & Carwings 5.2 m/kWh
Feb. dash & Carwings 5.2 m/kWh
$.0225 cents per mile.
evnow
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Month : Feb-2012
a. 618 Miles
b. 178 kWh (Wall - Blink)
c. 3.5 Miles/kWh (Wall)
d. 4.1 Miles/kWh (Leaf)
e. 4.0 Miles/kWh (CarWings)
f. $19.6
g. 3.2 Cents/Mile
I'll do a full year report later.
a. 618 Miles
b. 178 kWh (Wall - Blink)
c. 3.5 Miles/kWh (Wall)
d. 4.1 Miles/kWh (Leaf)
e. 4.0 Miles/kWh (CarWings)
f. $19.6
g. 3.2 Cents/Mile
I'll do a full year report later.
the leaf says 4.0 to now 4.4 kw/hr, i can get to 4.6 but you can't use freeways
i charge at night with pge offpeak program so that's $.09 per kw/hr. i estimate my bill to be ~$40 per month (700-800 miles per mo.)
had the leaf for 3700 miles and 5 months
i'll get some data when the wife gets home...
i charge at night with pge offpeak program so that's $.09 per kw/hr. i estimate my bill to be ~$40 per month (700-800 miles per mo.)
had the leaf for 3700 miles and 5 months
i'll get some data when the wife gets home...
I seem to be at 3.1 for the past 3 months. I'm not even trying to hypermile ... just driving the Leaf like a regular vehicle.
Dave
Dave
dgpcolorado
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March mileage:
Wall-to-wheels: 3.6 miles/kWh
Dash: 4.3 miles/kWh
As the weather warms, and March was unseasonably warm and dry here, my miles/kWh continues to increase. I'm curious as to what sort of numbers I will get in summer. I'll never get the numbers that the mild-weather flatlanders get, but I think I might get as high as 5.0 on the dash.
Notes: The wall-to-wheels included some preheating, so the numbers can't be used for charging efficiency. Driving temperatures were mostly above freezing, 30s to 50s with some 60s. At the end of the month battery temps of five bars became common, after months of four bars only. Elevation range: 8000 feet to 5750 feet. All driving includes steep hills. No multi-lane highway driving at all. Some of the driving is on dirt roads.
Wall-to-wheels: 3.6 miles/kWh
Dash: 4.3 miles/kWh
As the weather warms, and March was unseasonably warm and dry here, my miles/kWh continues to increase. I'm curious as to what sort of numbers I will get in summer. I'll never get the numbers that the mild-weather flatlanders get, but I think I might get as high as 5.0 on the dash.
Notes: The wall-to-wheels included some preheating, so the numbers can't be used for charging efficiency. Driving temperatures were mostly above freezing, 30s to 50s with some 60s. At the end of the month battery temps of five bars became common, after months of four bars only. Elevation range: 8000 feet to 5750 feet. All driving includes steep hills. No multi-lane highway driving at all. Some of the driving is on dirt roads.
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