TonyWilliams said:
bdl99 said:
Something else to consider is if you pay a shop to effectively take the DIY approach, it would probably cost you more in labor and it wouldn't be reversible and of course wouldn't have the other extra features.
Then it would not be DIY, eh?
True, which is why I said "effectively" and "approach". The point I was trying to make is there are probably four types of owners regarding these bypasses:
1) Someone prepared to do it themselves (like yourself)
2) Someone not prepared to do it themselves but happy to have someone else cut the wires for them (That is the group I was referring to above)
3) Someone who wants the hack/bypass but doesn't want to cut wires either themselves or have someone else do it
4) Someone who doesn't want the hack/bypass
Nothing is ever going to compete with type 1 because this type of person considers their time free and actually gets pleasure out of doing it themselves. My posts are not attacking you or this type of user, I am the same as you and enjoy doing this type of stuff. I started my kits started because like you I would post DIY threads on various forums of cars I've owned and quickly realized the other types of users. I would offer for local owners to come to my house and help them, but I couldn't help someone 3K miles away.
The kits are addressed at user types 2 and 3. The point I was trying to make was for type 2 the kit was still probably the cheapest option and had other benefits. For type 3 a kit approach is really the only option.
TonyWilliams said:
You're also discounting whether the DIY person can do the "extra features". The rear view camera option is available right now, without any kit or switch. I haven't used it except to show people that it can be done with the simple pushing of buttons. Yes, it is far easier with a switch, but then there are other features I would choose first to be on a dedicated switch.
I'm assuming that you are referring to going in to the configuration menu and camera settings, if not please post for everyone as I would certainly be interested. I think/hope you would agree that the menu option isn't really practical to do on a regular basis or while driving.
TonyWilliams said:
Also, it is not necessary to hack holes for a switch, nor is an indicator light needed. But, I feel that it is prudent to have some warning that the navigation is not updating properly, and a reminder to turn the speed signal back on. Another option might be to have a simple timer on the switch that only offers an XX second interrupt of the speed signal.
True, others have taken the timer approach and it is something I considered also but there are cases where timer would be a pain.
TonyWilliams said:
I don't know what the parking brake part of the equation is.
The head unit is capable of playing video files and that is where the parking brake comes in to the equation.
TonyWilliams said:
CAUTION: Whether you use this kit, or any other way, if you remove the center console trim (the bit surrounding the Clarion Audio Video Navigation display, I recommend either not disconnecting the passenger seat air bag light, or waiting over 50 minutes before doing so.
You may end up with lots of error codes. Nissan knows about this problem, and has a fix for it. It's easier not to have to make a trip to the dealer to reset it.
Yes, I highlight this in the instructions. There is no need to wait an extended period of time just be sure not to power up the car while the air bag light is disconnected or don't disconnect it. This error can actually be cleared yourself though if anyone is interested, but much easier to just follow the instructions
TonyWilliams said:
Bottom line, of course this apparently well done kit is easier, but will cost more. My time was several hours with exactly the dedicated features I wanted (like the light). My total cost was $20.
Thanks, as I said nothing could ever compete with a type 1 user on cost, but don't underestimate your skills, there are far fewer people like yourself than you may think.
