Actually Herm, I believe I made the utmost efforts to not insult them, much as I try to do when you make one of your absurd statements in regard to anthropogenic climate change.Herm wrote:I doubt he/she will give you more information if you insult them.. from all the data posted in this long thread the common denominator appears to be Arizona.. must be contaminated electrons from that sewage cooled nuclear plant.edatoakrun wrote: azdre/opossum.
I think you have damaged your own credibility, with your 7/30 edit to your post starting this thread:EDIT: 7/30/2012
Summary of thread: This is definitely a problem in hot climates. There appears to be NO correlation to car color, air conditioned garages, 80% charging, driving efficiency, miles driven, quick charging, or anything else beside outside ambient temperature.
In fact, while long term battery exposure to higher temperatures clearly seems to be the largest factor in capacity bar disappearance, very few of those with the multiple bar losses have posted as much information about their battery care practices as these two have, and I have credited them for their initial candor.
Our exchange of comments, on the first day of this thread, over three months ago:
Let's see if I can answer all of your questions:
* We always charge to 100% (we drive it a lot, 17,000 miles in 14 months of driving).
* We do 'top it off' a lot. That's the one item we got 4/5 stars on the battery check in March 2012.
* The car sat at 100% for a month in May, 2011, not plugged in.
* It's almost always garaged or in covered parking.
* We get the low battery warning about once a month.
* Never turtled. Been meaning to try this out though.
* We've QC'd 2-3 times this spring.
* There's been no error messages (aside from the A/C fiasco last summer, please don't make me relive that one.)
* My husband is a nut about keeping the tire pressure monitored and consistant.
* I'll pull the carwings data and add it to here tonight.
I'm thinking I should take it in to the dealer for some documentation even if they turn me away initially.
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 2&start=20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Yes, I would, in your situation.
I don't intend to be critical, but given your location, if heat and time spent at 100% charge are the greatest variables in loss of capacity, Your 12th bar, could perhaps, be just be the first "canary" to stop signing.
Please report back, when you find out more, about how much range and kWh capacity that bar corresponds to.
It is, however, irresponsible, IMO, for any one to use the edit function on the first post of a thread, to post, as a summary of the thread, their own opinions, not held my many (and probably most, in this case) of the participants in the discussion.
I chose my words very carefully when I made the comment you quoted, and I still hold the same opinion, today.azdre
Summary of thread: This is definitely a problem in hot climates. There appears to be NO correlation to car color, air conditioned garages, 80% charging, driving efficiency, miles driven, quick charging, or anything else beside outside ambient temperature...