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How much mileage are you getting in this cold weather ?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:21 pm

How much mileage are you getting in this cold weather with heater on in colorado?
I am getting less than 40 miles on with full charged battery with heater on, heated seats on,steering wheel heating on my new 2012 Nissan leaf , I have driven 400 miles by now. Most of the driving is in Evening awhen tempratue is around 12 to 30 F.
I very qucikly loose the bars.

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Re: How much mileage are you getting in this cold weather ?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:25 pm

Sounds normal with those options on.

Pre-heat the car when it's plugged in then turn off the heat and just have the heated seats and steering wheel going for the trip. That'll boost the range a good amount.
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Re: How much mileage are you getting in this cold weather ?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:55 pm

I have been seeing a range of about 70+ miles in recent weeks (to Very Low Battery Warning). It was a bit more last winter. However, I rarely use the heater when stretching the range, just preheating while plugged-in and the steering wheel heater. I also charge in a garage that doesn't drop much below freezing, which helps. When driving short distances—40 miles or less—I don't worry about heater use, although I usually don't need it because I am dressed for winter. My dash mileage for December was 4.4 miles/kWh and mileage measured from the wall was 3.69 miles/kWh.

My speeds top out at 60 mph and most of my driving is at slower speeds, albeit with large elevation changes of 2300 feet on my long trips. If you are blasting along at freeway speeds with the heater running you might see less range than I do—speed is a big range killer, as is the heater.

As cdub said above, if you aren't preheating while plugged-in, you are taking an unnecessary hit to the range.
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Re: How much mileage are you getting in this cold weather ?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:32 pm

I'm in the slightly chilly area if NH (-1F this morning). I've found that my winter consumption is about twice that of summer. (2 bars summer commute vs 4 bars with full heat etc).

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Re: How much mileage are you getting in this cold weather ?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:22 pm

<-- Cleveland, Ohio ... ambient temps in the teens and 20s lately... and I'd say each "bar" on the dashboard seems to go away after about 5 miles of driving. This is just a rough estimate... but with the heat on 68-deg-F auto, and heated seats on ... and around-town driving, we're seeing about that. Today's drive into work (about 12 miles) knocked off 3-bars and the CARWINGS website said 75% left when I checked it at work at lunch time..... so based on that, 50-60 miles on a full charge perhaps....

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Re: How much mileage are you getting in this cold weather ?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:38 pm

I also live in New Hampshire. I travel to my parents house which is about 40 miles away from my house. Half the miles are highway miles (travel at 55 mph) and other miles are on secondary highways(35 to 45 mph). With a full charge and temperatures between 25 and 30 degrees, I have between 30 to 35 miles remaining when I arrive at my parents house. I preheat my Leaf and drive in eco mode. I keep the heat on about half the time. If I feel cold I will put my the Leaf in drive an turn on the heat for about 5 minutes and them put back to eco drive.



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Re: How much mileage are you getting in this cold weather ?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:52 pm

40 miles "seems" a bit low but that depends. here lately its in the low 30's high 20's (bit colder than normal but we get this kind of weather at least a few weeks every Winter) but still getting 50+ miles easily with heat.

Now, I just did a 77 mile trip a few days ago and made it ok but it was minimal heat (did have to toggle defrost quite a bit due to rainy weather) and normally the additional rolling resistance from wet pavements normally cuts me down into the high 60's but the rain was pretty light (half snow at times actually)

I have a heated jacket which does wonders and aftermarket heated seat. only drawback is cold feet and hands but i take turns putting one hand in pocket so not too bad.

now, if we pencil it out. in cold weather you will not have as much power available. for me, it seems to be around 17 Kwh. now if you run the heat for an hour you might use up 4 kwh if its very cold leaving you around 13 Kwh to drive on. leave 2 Kwh as a "stress reliever" and with the 11 remaining at 4 miles/kwh (your gauge will read less due to heat use) that is 44 miles... so ya, it can be that low
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Re: How much mileage are you getting in this cold weather ?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:59 pm

evening temperatures are in the mid 40s here in SC and Im getting 4.3 miles/kWh on the navi screen. the effective range is around 75-80 miles to VLB from 100%

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Re: How much mileage are you getting in this cold weather ?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:06 pm

Shaka wrote:Today's drive into work (about 12 miles) knocked off 3-bars and the CARWINGS website said 75% left when I checked it at work at lunch time..... so based on that, 50-60 miles on a full charge perhaps....
That 75% on the website is silliness. It doesn't mean you have 75% of your battery capacity; only that you have 75% of your charge bars. i.e. it is saying that you have 9 of your 12 bars left, which you already knew.

Actually, though, it's about right at that charge level. If you look at Tony's chart you will see that 9 bars represents somewhere between 71% and 78% charged. Where things go bonkers is down at low charge levels. If the website says "17%" that means you have 2 bars showing, and Tony's chart says that two bars is really somewhere between 26% and 31% charged.

Note that the only numbers you will ever see on that web page are 0, 8, 17, 25, 33, 42, 50, 58, 67, 75, 83, 92, and 100. It's really just a fraction masquerading as a percentage.

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Re: How much mileage are you getting in this cold weather ?

Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:31 pm

planet4ever wrote:Note that the only numbers you will ever see on that web page are 0, 8, 17, 25, 33, 42, 50, 58, 67, 75, 83, 92, and 100. It's really just a fraction masquerading as a percentage. Ray
Ray, thanks for the info. That makes sense, as we've only had the car ~2 weeks but I had noted a lot of "same %" showing up online as I'm still new to it all and checking the carwings site often for "fun" ... so needless to say, that clears things up a bit. I also realize that when driving, if you're not watching the gauge like a hawk, especially in this cold weather, then I don't know if I am at the top or bottom of that particular block. So the ranges only get that much worse... do I have one mile left before I drop off the next bar (1/12th) or...???

If only they had just given us a real percentage number... I'd actually RATHER have that versus how many miles to empty, since we all know that number is equally as silly. None the less, to the OP's question, my drive round-trip to work yesterday was about 25 miles and I had ~half my bars left... so I would still say 50 miles give or take with constant heat on (68deg in my case) seems about right. Can't wait till spring time and better range!

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