dgpcolorado wrote:However, my reading of the mileage and charge patterns of hundreds of LEAF drivers over the last couple of years makes me think that your situation is quite unusual.
Occasional outliers, such as you, would benefit from home charging at the 6 kW speed. For the majority? Not so much, from what I've observed.
I dont think it is unusual at all. I fit in with this model, my carpool partner who is driving the EV RAV4 SUV does not fit, and I see other Leafers cruzing the route down to Sillicon Valley, 38 miles away from San Fran all the time.
My rough estimate is 1 in 5,6, or 7 drivers fits the the longer distance mold. I cant prove it though just the same as others cant prove otherwise either, all hand waving aside.
The longer the distance per day a person travels, the better the return on their investment. However I understand that many drivers get more insecure the longer the commute in a EV so this dynamic is hard to get a read on.
No doubt there are some, such as you and apvbguy
who can take advantage of a 30 Amp EVSE. I think what Ray was trying to point out was that most people would derive little benefit from a high power EVSE at home and that newcomers shouldn't automatically assume
that their EVSE must be able to fully match the 6 kW charger in the car. Consider that the rationale for the ~40 mile electric range for the Chevy Volt was that most people driver fewer than 40 miles a day.
Also, it has been overlooked in the back-and-forth that we are talking about rather small differences in charging times. The 6 kW charger uses 27.5 Amps at 240 Volts (6.6 kW draw) on a 30 Amp EVSE. The relatively inexpensive EVSE Upgrade allows 20 Amp charging for the 2013 model Nissan EVSE. So, a charge that takes one hour on a 30 or 40 Amp EVSE would take a hour and 22 minutes on the upgraded Nissan EVSE. A two hour charge on a 30 Amp EVSE would take two hours and 44 minutes on an upgraded EVSE. A charge from Low Battery Warning to 80% (on a new battery) would take about two and a half hours on a 30 Amp EVSE and about three and a half hours on an upgraded EVSE. So, we aren't talking about a doubling in charge time or some such thing, as some seem to think.
That difference in time may be significant for you, but is it really a big deal for most
people charging at home? I think not, as I've said before. And EVSE Upgrade is substantially cheaper than buying a typical 30 or 40 Amp EVSE; the installation costs figure to be about the same for both.
If you don't buy any of this, fine. One nice thing about this discussion is that anyone perusing it has the information they need to make a decision for their own situation.
dgpcolorado wrote:Did they fix the problem that caused the EVSE credit to be disallowed if in the same year one applies for the $7500 EV tax credit? Wouldn't apply to those leasing but it sure was annoying for me when I purchased my LEAF.
WOW. This would really piss me off. Was it an error or by fed design?
I think it was an error in the way the law was written or implemented. And, yes, some of us were both surprised and annoyed. The lesson, I guess, is get your EVSE installed in a different calendar year from when you purchase your EV (doesn't apply to leases, of course). I wish I had known!