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Re: ICED - Images of Offending Vehicles Board of Shame

Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:16 pm

Hey, they had their time in the sun... And now that time has past and the bar has been raised (though, I'd argue that the PiP should not be allowed either based on its ridiculously short EV range)...
mwalsh wrote:I watch out for them to keep regular Prius owners honest when it comes to the HOV lane. To their credit, they've been surprisingly unemotional about loosing the privilege. :D
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Re: ICED - Images of Offending Vehicles Board of Shame

Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:50 pm

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LTLFTcomposite wrote:Can we get license plate shots of the cars parked in front of the massage parlor? This might be one time when people would want them fuzzed out - not that we care! :lol:
Yeah I thought we were taking "shaming" to a whole new level :lol:

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Re: ICED - Images of Offending Vehicles Board of Shame

Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:05 pm

mwalsh wrote:
TomT wrote:And the Prius could have been a PIP... It's hard to tell from the photo...
All the factory PIPs have an aluminum trim plate on the tailgate and a very distinct charge cover on the side of the vehicle pictured. That definitely ain't one, unless it's aftermarket.
Yep. None of the Priuses pictured so far are PiPs. They're also Gen 2 Priuses (04-09 model year) but they could be aftermarket retrofits (would need to inspect more closely). The PiP didn't become available until the '12 model year and is based on the Gen 3 (2010+ model year).

PiPs will have PLUG-IN HYRBID badging on the 2 front fenders, and a badge on the back, besides that trim plate. The wheels also are different than that of any other Gen 2 or Gen 3 Prius. Take a look at http://www.toyota.com/prius-plug-in/#!/gallery" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. Also, the taillight design changed on 2012+ Priuses (PiP and non-PiP) vs. the '10 and '11.

http://www.edmunds.com/toyota/prius/2006/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; under Photos has lots of pic of a Gen 2 Prius.

One can see that the Gen 3 regular Prius liftback at http://www.toyota.com/prius/#!/gallery" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; doesn't have the trim plate on the tailgate along different wheel designs.

BTW, there are now 4 members of the Prius family: regular aka liftback, v wagon (bigger), c (smaller), and PiP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... M8aCqmHr3o" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; sums it up pretty well. http://john1701a.com/prius/album/prius-album02.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; shows the Gen 1 (aka NHW11) that spanned the 01-03 model year.
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Re: ICED - Images of Offending Vehicles Board of Shame

Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:22 pm

JasonA wrote:I've got lots of pics but the thing that pisses me off the most is property management owners that won't put up proper signage for "EV ONLY" parking.. :roll:

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To be clear....this photo is at the Burbank Town Center mall, just outside of Sport Chalet. Only 2 of the four spaces are designated EV charging spots: the gray Leaf is not in one, even though the charging cord will reach, and neither is the Transit, which I believe is posted as a loading zone. And of the two spaces that are designated, the signage is insufficient for Burbank Police to enforce as it lacks the necessary wording.

Also, I did not know this until recently, but many ChargePoint stations including these have a 120 volt outlet hidden behind the corrugated metal plate below the display. Just wave your card or RFID-enabled credit card, and when it is accepted just pull the door open. So if the L2's are used up, and you have your L1 EVSE in the car with you, this gives you an option.

And if you see an Blue Ocean Leaf charging there some evening, you might find its owner over at IKEA getting his Swedish meatball fix :D
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Re: ICED - Images of Offending Vehicles Board of Shame

Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:26 am

RonDawg wrote:Also, I did not know this until recently, but many ChargePoint stations including these have a 120 volt outlet hidden behind the corrugated metal plate below the display. Just wave your card or RFID-enabled credit card, and when it is accepted just pull the door open. So if the L2's are used up, and you have your L1 EVSE in the car with you, this gives you an option.
Ron, unfortunately the L1 just doesn't work. There's a fatal design flaw. The plate has to make connection to the magnetic connector before the power will flow. This means the brick of the portable EVSE is just hanging in mid-air. This causes the plug to pull out just enough from the plug under the plate to cause a fault and the charge aborts. I've tried three times on three different plugs before I gave up. If there was a plate to velcro the brick then it wouldn't be a problem. Coulomb is aware of this (afaik) and is not building those models of EVSE's anymore.
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Re: ICED - Images of Offending Vehicles Board of Shame

Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:29 pm

ksnogas2112 wrote:
RonDawg wrote:Also, I did not know this until recently, but many ChargePoint stations including these have a 120 volt outlet hidden behind the corrugated metal plate below the display. Just wave your card or RFID-enabled credit card, and when it is accepted just pull the door open. So if the L2's are used up, and you have your L1 EVSE in the car with you, this gives you an option.
Ron, unfortunately the L1 just doesn't work. There's a fatal design flaw. The plate has to make connection to the magnetic connector before the power will flow. This means the brick of the portable EVSE is just hanging in mid-air. This causes the plug to pull out just enough from the plug under the plate to cause a fault and the charge aborts. I've tried three times on three different plugs before I gave up. If there was a plate to velcro the brick then it wouldn't be a problem. Coulomb is aware of this (afaik) and is not building those models of EVSE's anymore.
Is there no way to attach a loop of cord to the brick so you can hang it from the pedestal while providing strain relief? BTW, chargepoint still shows the dual mode 120/240 EVSEs on the products link on their website.
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Re: ICED - Images of Offending Vehicles Board of Shame

Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:32 pm

ksnogas2112 wrote:
RonDawg wrote:Also, I did not know this until recently, but many ChargePoint stations including these have a 120 volt outlet hidden behind the corrugated metal plate below the display. Just wave your card or RFID-enabled credit card, and when it is accepted just pull the door open. So if the L2's are used up, and you have your L1 EVSE in the car with you, this gives you an option.
Ron, unfortunately the L1 just doesn't work. There's a fatal design flaw. The plate has to make connection to the magnetic connector before the power will flow. This means the brick of the portable EVSE is just hanging in mid-air. This causes the plug to pull out just enough from the plug under the plate to cause a fault and the charge aborts. I've tried three times on three different plugs before I gave up. If there was a plate to velcro the brick then it wouldn't be a problem. Coulomb is aware of this (afaik) and is not building those models of EVSE's anymore.
OK thanks for the info. I have never tried to use the L1 outlet myself.
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Re: ICED - Images of Offending Vehicles Board of Shame

Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:53 am

I at least might be able to use the L-1 at one local charging station for my ZEV maxi-scooter. Now that I have Chargepoint I can make the magic door open!
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Re: ICED - Images of Offending Vehicles Board of Shame

Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:47 pm

I just learned of iceshaming.tumblr.com from a Volt driver on Priuschat. I know he had a Gen 2 Prius, but don't know about now.

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