Sway concept hints at Leaf 2 styling ?

@GRA:
Thanks for that; with the velocity factor, your dissertation and conclusion makes sense; but, all this rhetoric serves to emphasise the multitude of factors and the assumptions needed to calculate the mileage range of EVs. To me it all culminates with a bit of empirical engineering where one drives the new car on a known course at known speeds and compares the range results.

This is getting quite OT. I suggest starting a new thread. I can move the posts from this thread to the new one later.

For a typical car, the aero drag at ~28MPH is HALF the load on the drivetrain:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/tool-aero-rolling-resistance.php

So, when the Cd is lower, the speed at which it is 50% of the load goes up. At 0.28 the speed is ~33MPH. At a Cd of 0.24, it is 35MPH.

Aero drag matters. A lot.

evnow said:

This is getting quite OT. I suggest starting a new thread. I can move the posts from this thread to the new one later.

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I think that's a good idea. I keep reading the new posts, looking for Leaf 2.0 rumors

...and there are none, gosh darn it!

Meanwhile...in light of the above...I got me a new personalized licence plate just to stay ahead of the game... As you can imagine, MODEL 3 plate is already taken. Most likely by Tesla right after the corporate meeting that settled the name of that future automobile. So glad I did not order MODEL E...

Someone already asked me if this was the real thing! :mrgreen:

Just came across this...
"Nissan Sway Concept car thought to hint at possible design cues for 2017 Leaf." Estimated range 120-150 miles, smaller or larger packs to choose from.

Who knows, maybe Nissan will surprise us by matching Mod 3/Bolt/Ford stealth EVs' 200-mile magical number. I would, if I were Nissan. It's gonna get much more competitive, selling EVs, come 2017.

Considering how closely the new Rogue matches the Hi-Cross concept, it's possible the new LEAF might look very similar to Sway.

-Add door handles
-Add bezel around the windows
-Add real mirrors
-Make the lights a little fatter
-Delete the two-tone color
-Tone down the lines on the side
-Smaller wheels
-Pull the rear wheels forward and front wheels back.
-Add sharper corners on the rear

Basically, make the car a lot uglier. Still should look better than the current LEAF.

ILETRIC said:

...Who knows, maybe Nissan will surprise us by matching Mod 3/Bolt/Ford stealth EVs' 200-mile magical number...

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I won't be surprised when they match the price, which is $10k more than current leaf.

The Sway concept looks like a mashup of i3 and Ford. Not necessarily a bad thing. Less bugeyed, more modern/mainstream.

Bring it on, Nissan!

ILETRIC said:

Just came across this...
"Nissan Sway Concept car thought to hint at possible design cues for 2017 Leaf." Estimated range 120-150 miles, smaller or larger packs to choose from.

Who knows, maybe Nissan will surprise us by matching Mod 3/Bolt/Ford stealth EVs' 200-mile magical number. I would, if I were Nissan. It's gonna get much more competitive, selling EVs, come 2017.

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if the new leaf came exactly like this concept I think it would sell like crazy.......give 200 mile range under 35k before incentives/rebate, and all nissan dealerships have a 24 hour accessible QUICK CHARGER and ev sales would grow exponentially for nissan........until then it will keep sputtering along.......