Brenthasty
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Our stock front driver tires made 35,000 miles
The OP was already featured in a bunch of things for breaking the 100K mark:DarthPuppy said:I don't think a commercial vehicle such as a taxi should count for the purpose of high mileage awards, at least not for being first to clear a threshold. A commercial vehicle can be used 24/7 as the company could assign it out to multiple shifts of drivers. So I think you have a valid claim. And Nissan would do well to recognize you for it and get you into a commercial or at least print ad or newsletter/website article.
TaylorSFGuy said:When the temperature bars rarely would go to 8 on the 2011, I didn't charge.
WetEV said:TaylorSFGuy said:When the temperature bars rarely would go to 8 on the 2011, I didn't charge.
I only rarely see 6 TB, usually 5 in summer and 4 in winter. While I'm in a bit cooler climate, that doesn't explain it. Is getting 7 and 8 TBs related to quick charging? Do you see 7 or 8 TBs now that you are mostly avoiding daily quick charging?
cwerdna said:The OP was already featured in a bunch of things for breaking the 100K mark:
I'm going to make a guess here, but since his commute was 65 mi each way, the car was either driving (discharging at about 20 KW on the freeway) or charging (L2 at 3.8 KW for 8 hrs at work and 8 hrs while sleeping). Even though the vehicle was in a nice cool, wet PNW, the battery was constantly warmer than ambient due to constant charge/discharge. How much so? I don't know, but LeafSpy has always shown my battery at least 5-10 F higher when charging than when not charging overnight (some nights I charge, some I don't). Also, my driving pattern is all city 20-40 mph and low mileage 5-10 mi/d. I'll hazard a guess that Steve's battery was constantly 10-20 F higher than ambient, maybe even more. When you add Steve's full charge/discharge cycles (almost always 0 to 100% which is hardest on LiON batteries), and later addition of 2x daily DCQC's, I'd say he fully utilized a 1st gen battery and vehicle that was probably designed for less than 75,000 mi. If I recall correctly, Nissan's CEO once stated that his engineers told him the design wasn't ready for release, but the marketing people forced it (perhaps pushed by GM's Volt release in 2010). Also, the "leading environmentally-friendly affordable family" (LEAF) car is really for in-town use (motor was optimized to 35 mph).WetEV said:TaylorSFGuy said:When the temperature bars rarely would go to 8 on the 2011, I didn't charge.
I only rarely see 6 TB, usually 5 in summer and 4 in winter. While I'm in a bit cooler climate, that doesn't explain it. Is getting 7 and 8 TBs related to quick charging? Do you see 7 or 8 TBs now that you are mostly avoiding daily quick charging?
The crazy thing is (and there's a whole thread about this already), if you can charge the car, the car can take at least some regenerative braking. On a '11, you'd think that would be a minimum of 3 kW of regen. With LeafSpy or LeafDD, one can easily see that the car severely limits the amount of regenerative braking depending on vehicle speed and SOC by looking at regen power and battery pack voltage. The battery can take regenerative braking, but it's programmed not to and the limits get more and more conservative as the battery loses capacity.TaylorSFGuy said:I took the LEAF in today to Nissan of Fife (WA), asking the dealer to inspect the brakes and look at the lack of regeneration. Their reply:
Verified Cust Concern. Found HV Battery is not able to accept regen charging anymore. Needs new battery ... is too weak to accept regen charging. Needs new and improved battery. Cost to replace battery - $6,294.65 plus tax.
Duh!TaylorSFGuy said:As for the brakes - 5mm on front and 6mm on rear. The advisor went on to say that I should expect they will wear out faster now that the regeneration has gone away.
My thoughts exactly on the brakes. I was trying to link the lack of regeneration to the grab and release braking I experience at LBW or VLB with light brake application (exiting from freeway or approaching a light). My simple interpretation is the system wants to put the energy to the battery but it can't and the brakes have to release - it can be quite a jerking motion in this situation as I come to a light.drees said:The crazy thing is (and there's a whole thread about this already), if you can charge the car, the car can take at least some regenerative braking. On a '11, you'd think that would be a minimum of 3 kW of regen. With LeafSpy or LeafDD, one can easily see that the car severely limits the amount of regenerative braking depending on vehicle speed and SOC by looking at regen power and battery pack voltage. The battery can take regenerative braking, but it's programmed not to and the limits get more and more conservative as the battery loses capacity.TaylorSFGuy said:I took the LEAF in today to Nissan of Fife (WA), asking the dealer to inspect the brakes and look at the lack of regeneration. Their reply:
Verified Cust Concern. Found HV Battery is not able to accept regen charging anymore. Needs new battery ... is too weak to accept regen charging. Needs new and improved battery. Cost to replace battery - $6,294.65 plus tax.
Duh!TaylorSFGuy said:As for the brakes - 5mm on front and 6mm on rear. The advisor went on to say that I should expect they will wear out faster now that the regeneration has gone away.
TaylorSFGuy said:Cost to replace battery - $6,294.65 plus tax.
Is there sales tax on a replacement battery? That's 9% - 10% in California.kubel said:+$6499 battery
-$1000 core
+$225 retrofit kit
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$5724 total for parts at full MSRP
+$570.65 labor???
TaylorSFGuy said:I took the LEAF in today to Nissan of Fife (WA), asking the dealer to inspect the brakes and look at the lack of regeneration. Their reply:
Verified Cust Concern. Found HV Battery is not able to accept regen charging anymore. Needs new battery ... is too weak to accept regen charging. Needs new and improved battery. Cost to replace battery - $6,294.65 plus tax.
As for the brakes - 5mm on front and 6mm on rear. The advisor went on to say that I should expect they will wear out faster now that the regeneration has gone away.
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