ROFL !DaveinOlyWA wrote: I guess you "might" get some idiot to believe that half assed TCO
I'm game.
What in my TCO do you find objectionable (other than it being a lot less than you pay) ?
Specifics please.
ROFL !DaveinOlyWA wrote: I guess you "might" get some idiot to believe that half assed TCO
My car charges while I sleep. Factor that in.SageBrush wrote:What in my TCO do you find objectionable (other than it being a lot less than you pay) ?
Specifics please.
Ok, consider this, you got up to 45 mpg, which means with gas running about $3.30 a gallon at the moment here, to go 90 miles you would have spent $6.60. Even the most expensive chargers (not counting Blink, which is ridiculously high) are $3.10 for me to go 90 miles. So, basically less than half the cost. Now, that doesn't factor in the $600 of work you did, the cost of the oil changes (don't forget to include the cost of your time), etc. It also doesn't factor in that the majority of my charges are completely free of charge, meaning that a more realistic mileage is $3.10 to go near 1,000 miles.IssacZachary wrote:If you play the buying game right you can get super deals. Although I've never heard of making a good winning off a new car, I did buy a 1993 Mazda 323 for $250, did about $600 of work to it and drove it like that for about five years, with the exception of changing the oil twice a year (did it myself) and a set of tires I bought new for $30 a piece plus $50 for the tire change. I also got 40 to 45mpg in the thing! I even took that car clear to Puerto Vallarta and back. And then I ended up selling it for $1,000. And that was with only liability insurance.
Me too. I love my Leaf. Why do you think I went from a 45mpg Gasoline to a 60mpg diesel to a 115mpg-e electric?cmwade77 wrote:Ok, consider this, you got up to 45 mpg, which means with gas running about $3.30 a gallon at the moment here, to go 90 miles you would have spent $6.60. Even the most expensive chargers (not counting Blink, which is ridiculously high) are $3.10 for me to go 90 miles. So, basically less than half the cost. Now, that doesn't factor in the $600 of work you did, the cost of the oil changes (don't forget to include the cost of your time), etc. It also doesn't factor in that the majority of my charges are completely free of charge, meaning that a more realistic mileage is $3.10 to go near 1,000 miles.IssacZachary wrote:If you play the buying game right you can get super deals. Although I've never heard of making a good winning off a new car, I did buy a 1993 Mazda 323 for $250, did about $600 of work to it and drove it like that for about five years, with the exception of changing the oil twice a year (did it myself) and a set of tires I bought new for $30 a piece plus $50 for the tire change. I also got 40 to 45mpg in the thing! I even took that car clear to Puerto Vallarta and back. And then I ended up selling it for $1,000. And that was with only liability insurance.
This is why I like the cost of an EV over a gas powered vehicle.
You fall asleep waiting for the car to charge.WetEV wrote:My car charges while I sleep. Factor that in.SageBrush wrote:What in my TCO do you find objectionable (other than it being a lot less than you pay) ?
Specifics please.
Depending on the individual's situation, either could be correctSageBrush wrote:You fall asleep waiting for the car to charge.WetEV wrote:My car charges while I sleep. Factor that in.SageBrush wrote:What in my TCO do you find objectionable (other than it being a lot less than you pay) ?
Specifics please.
FTFY
I only wish DC FCing were that cheap in my area. That's why I didn't feel like paying an extra $1K to $1.5K for a '13 Leaf w/CHAdeMO when I was in the market for a used one to replace my the one I was leasing. Had already lived with a Leaf w/CHAdeMO for 2 years.cmwade77 wrote:Ok, consider this, you got up to 45 mpg, which means with gas running about $3.30 a gallon at the moment here, to go 90 miles you would have spent $6.60. Even the most expensive chargers (not counting Blink, which is ridiculously high) are $3.10 for me to go 90 miles. So, basically less than half the cost.
I once took my Leaf on a 700 mile trip. Basically we went to the first L2 station (there are no DC Fast charging stations). It was free (most of my charging was free on that trip). During that time we ate lunch. Then we went to a campground and used L1 all night while we camped. Then the next day to a L2 for breakfast. Then off to our first destination. Then the reverse on the way back home. And that was basically how we did it. That and creeping along the side of the road at 30mph a couple times so I could make it up a 13,000ft pass. We even went through the highest town in Colorado on that trip and crossed the continental divide several times.GRA wrote:Depending on the individual's situation, either could be correctSageBrush wrote:You fall asleep waiting for the car to charge.WetEV wrote: My car charges while I sleep. Factor that in.
FTFYFor anyone who can't charge at home or work, the latter is most likely.
A perfect demonstration of how impractical a short range BEV is for road trips without QCs, or the time suck involved even with them beyond a single charging stop. Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be, if you've got a better option. Way back in the early days on this forum there were lots of people making such adventures, but most quickly grew tired of the limitations, which is why most of those who've stayed with PEVs have moved on to much longer-ranged BEVs, PHEVs, or even back to an ICE.IssacZachary wrote:I once took my Leaf on a 700 mile trip. Basically we went to the first L2 station (there are no DC Fast charging stations). It was free (most of my charging was free on that trip). During that time we ate lunch. Then we went to a campground and used L1 all night while we camped. Then the next day to a L2 for breakfast. Then off to our first destination. Then the reverse on the way back home. And that was basically how we did it. That and creeping along the side of the road at 30mph a couple times so I could make it up a 13,000ft pass. We even went through the highest town in Colorado on that trip and crossed the continental divide several times.GRA wrote:Depending on the individual's situation, either could be correctSageBrush wrote: You fall asleep waiting for the car to charge.
FTFYFor anyone who can't charge at home or work, the latter is most likely.