Oils4AsphaultOnly
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jlv said:I saw this statement from Tesla and really wondered about it, especially since I did a 200+ mile drive on AutoPilot right after reading it. My best guess is that they determine if you are hold the steering wheel based upon a torque reading.cwerdna said:In the case of the recent Model S that crashed into a firetruck in Utah...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/05/16/nhtsa-looking-into-tesla-crash-utah/617168002/
I constantly hold the wheel when using AP, but I hold it lightly. I found that if I hold it too firmly and AP begins to take a curve, it might disengage. Thus, I occasionally get a "hold the wheel" nag even though I'm already holding it. Over 200 miles (almost 4 hours) I probably got the nag more than half a dozen times. I really wonder if Tesla pulled my logs if they would describe my drive the same way as they described hers...
(she has since admitted that she was looking down at her phone at the time of the crash).During this "drive cycle," the Model S registered "more than a dozen instances of her hands being off the steering wheel." On two occasions, the driver had her hands off the wheel for more than a minute each time, reengaging briefly with the steering wheel only after a visual alert from the car.
Me too. I hold my steering wheel too lightly it seems. I'm constantly nagged on my 20-mile freeway commute. But you know what, being nagged has been far better than driving the stop-n-go commuter hell.
I just don't understand those people who insist on using AP where it hasn't been authorized yet. Just because it "can" work, doesn't mean it'll work all the time. And the people blaming Tesla for the improper use of AP is even more incomprehensible.
Here's autopilot being tricked into flying into a mountain: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/black-box-adds-to-signs-that-german-co-pilot-deliberately-crashed-plane/2015/04/03/aaff24fc-d9f6-11e4-b3f2-607bd612aeac_story.html?utm_term=.03b9faa14f72
Here's the limitations of planes-based autopilot: https://www.cnbc.com/2015/03/26/autopilot-what-the-system-can-and-cant-do.html
"From a flying perspective, the pilot or the co-pilot must remain at the controls to keep an eye on the computer to make sure everything is running smoothly."
"the traveling public tends to imagine a pilot reclining back, reading a newspaper, while the autopilot does all the work. The reality is actually quite different, he said. 'The auto flying system does not fly the airplane, The pilots fly the plane through the automation.'"
If autopilot is used outside of their limitations, would it be the pilots who have to accept responsibility? Why is that any different with Tesla's autopilot?! It's the end users who need to change their perceptions, not the system nagging the users to death.