TSLA corporate outlook
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dgpcolorado
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It does depend on one's situation. I, too, have just one car and am also long-retired but I average 20,000 miles a year. Some of it is 70 mile grocery shopping trips, a part of rural living, but most of the miles are long road trips. Haven't been on an airliner in years — I'd like to keep it that way — but I do enjoy exploring the country on road trips, such as a 3100 mile trip to California last month, and I have used the Supercharger network more than 260 times in 2½ years. For me, Tesla makes road trips fun!GlennD said:
^ The winding road along the Dolores River in western Colorado.
^ Tower Arch, Arches National Park in southeastern Utah, taken yesterday.
GRA
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Arches in October is really nice. Stayed overnight there (Devil's Garden Cmpgrd.) and hiked the next morning on the way back from Boulder/Rocky Mtn. NP in 1992.
It is great if you like to travel. Me I am a stay at home type. Tesla makes since when you consider the Supercharger network.
I see that there was a reply but I have GRA on my ignore list. I am much happier. He is a great spammer!
I see that there was a reply but I have GRA on my ignore list. I am much happier. He is a great spammer!
webb14leafs
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lorenfb said:
When the "competition" promises they'll start competing in 2 years, they are not really the "competition."
Also, will the SEC investigate VW for misleading investors if they don't release an EV for $25K in 2020?
Nubo
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EVDRIVER said:
Lol, but it doesn't turn on if the car is hooked up to emissions testing. :lol:
evnow
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That is not what they are doing. They will continue to make profits every quarter until most of the shorts disappear, TSLA is part of S&P500 and they have good investment grade credit rating.webb14leafs said:
Besides, they have other avenues of raising money. Mainly from local governments/banks. They already did so in China. They'll do it again in EU. Even in US, they'll make it a condition to locate their next factory - raise money for us thr' state bonds.
evnow
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Charging network is just a nice to have for me. Currently the overall package of Model 3 is hard to beat. Esp, once the SR becomes available.GlennD said:
Even if you don't want to use the supercharging network, why would you go out of the way to buy a different EV that isn't better in any respect ? That is why I've always said, the only way others can really compete with Model 3 is on price.
Its been a while since we heard much about Infiniti EV, so lets call it what it is. Nissan/infiniti didn't build an EV because they simply couldn't build anything that could effectively compete with a Tesla.
I am waiting for a basic car with color as the only option. It may never happen but if you believe Elon it will happen in 6 months or so. I received an Email offering a car with an intermediate range battery. It was still 47K. , not 37K
webb14leafs
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evnow said:
Not sure if you're disagreeing or just pointing out where there debt will come from. I agree they will have an easy time borrowing money, but their cash burn will exceed their profits once they start manufacturing new plants. This isn't really an arguable point.
GRA
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cwerdna
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https://twitter.com/axios/status/1066844231132696578 from 4:01 PM - 25 Nov 2018
cwerdna said:
Yep, I believe it. As Tesla said before, the Model 3 was a "bet the company" product.
With the incredibly rough ramp up to 5k/week things got very close.
Fortunately, I don't believe any future products will also be "bet the company" products and I hear there are a few low cost auto factories soon coming on the market
mtndrew1
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Carlos may have been thrown under a bus and I have genuine sympathy for all the GM folks about to lose their jobs.
That said, there’s some genuine irony that for years the internet chatter has been:
1) Elon Musk is an actual fraud
2) PHEVs make much more sense than BEVs and will prevail.
3) Tesla can’t make a profit on the Model 3
4) Once the “big guys” in the auto business decide to, they can just spit out products that will crush Tesla.
In reality:
1) Carlos Ghosn & Rupert Stadler are in jail.
2) GM just cancelled the Volt after years of slow sales combined with high incentives.
3) Tesla is actually generating a legitimate profit and free cash flow now that capex has slowed.
4) The I-Pace arrived with 235 miles of range out of a 90 kWh pack, the eTron is still missing in action, and Nissan is having a helluva time putting out a 60 kWh battery pack in a car that rides on an eight year old chassis coming down an existing high volume assembly line.
Rivian also looks to be potentially legit and might blindside the Detroit 3 profit centers if they execute.
That said, there’s some genuine irony that for years the internet chatter has been:
1) Elon Musk is an actual fraud
2) PHEVs make much more sense than BEVs and will prevail.
3) Tesla can’t make a profit on the Model 3
4) Once the “big guys” in the auto business decide to, they can just spit out products that will crush Tesla.
In reality:
1) Carlos Ghosn & Rupert Stadler are in jail.
2) GM just cancelled the Volt after years of slow sales combined with high incentives.
3) Tesla is actually generating a legitimate profit and free cash flow now that capex has slowed.
4) The I-Pace arrived with 235 miles of range out of a 90 kWh pack, the eTron is still missing in action, and Nissan is having a helluva time putting out a 60 kWh battery pack in a car that rides on an eight year old chassis coming down an existing high volume assembly line.
Rivian also looks to be potentially legit and might blindside the Detroit 3 profit centers if they execute.
LTLFTcomposite
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They should be able to pick up some more factory space cheap, although they probably need to find something in the southeast.
cwerdna
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Tonight (12/9/18), there's supposed to be an interview w/Elon Musk on 60 Minutes. Set your TiVos, DVRs, etc. to record it. (I have a One Pass for the show on my TIVo Bolt+.)
