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Via GCC:
Ballard fuel cell modules to power yard trucks at Port of LA in CARB-funded project
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/10/20181019-ballard.html

allard Power Systems will provide fuel cell modules to power two port terminal yard trucks as part of a project being managed by GTI and partially funded by the California Air Resources Board (CARB). (Earlier post.)

CARB has preliminarily awarded $5.7 million dollars to GTI for the Zero Emissions for California Ports (ZECAP) Project. The ZECAP Project will validate the commercial viability of zero-emission fuel cell electric hybrid yard trucks operating in a demanding, real-world cargo-handling application. . . .

The project will develop, validate, and deploy two Capacity TJ9000 fuel cell electric hybrid yard trucks at the Port of Los Angeles in California. The conventional diesel-powered TJ 9000 is a single-axle yard jockey truck with a GCWR of up to 242,000 lbs. It can be used for intermodal, warehouse and distribution, or for port trucking.

The hydrogen fuel cell yard trucks will be operated by TraPac, the container terminal and stevedore operator at the port.

Ballard will provide 85 kilowatt (kW) FCveloCity-HD fuel cell modules for primary propulsion of each yard truck and BAE Systems will provide the electric drive system and will have responsibility for systems integration using its HDS200 HybriDrive series propulsion system.

The yard trucks will move cargo containers within the terminal yard. Ballard plans to deliver power modules in 2019 and a 12-month operating period is planned for the project, beginning in March 2020. . . .

The San Pedro Bay Ports Clean Air Action Plan, encompassing the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, mandates that all cargo handling equipment be zero-emission by 2030.

Hydrogen and fuel cells provide a path to support achievement of these targets, while also enabling zero-emission equipment to be fueled in the same manner and same amount of time as natural gas and diesel fueled vehicles, minimizing real estate requirements, and maintaining operational practices.
 
Via GCC:
Mercedes-Benz delivers electric eActros heavy-duty truck to Meyer-Logistik
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/10/20181021-eactros.html

. . . For one year, the company based in Friedrichsdorf in Hessen will now be test-driving a 25-tonne truck with a refrigeration unit for transporting temperature-sensitive foodstuffs from the warehouse to different supermarkets in the center of Hamburg.

The weight of the transported goods can be up to 10 tonnes. The whole day’s tour is approximately 100 kilometres long and is dealt with by one driver in one shift at first. There is no need to recharge during the trip because the range of the eActros is up to 200 km.

Meyer-Logistik is one of twenty customers from different industries that have integrated the heavy-duty electric truck into their fleet. Each of these selected customers will put a near-series version of either the 18 or 25-tonne variant through its paces in real operations and will test the respective vehicle for its suitability for their daily field of work.

The aim is to make locally emission-free and quiet driving a reality in cities by 2021, also with series heavy-duty trucks—and all of this as economically viable as with a diesel truck. The test series consists of two phases, each with ten customers and spanning a total of around two years. . . .

The refrigerated replacement box on the eActros used by Meyer-Logistik is the W.KO COOL model supplied by Schmitz Cargobull. It has optimum insulation for energy-efficient transport of refrigerated goods. This robust body is suited for intensive day-to-day use. The purely electrically operated cooling unit functions completely emission-free and is specially designed for use in distribution traffic. . . .

The drive system comprises two electric motors located close to the rear-axle wheel hubs. They have an output of 126 kW each, together with a maximum torque of 485 N·m each. The gearing ratios turn this into 11,000 N·m each, resulting in a performance that is comparable with that of a diesel truck.

The maximum permissible axle load stands at the usual 11.5 tonnes. The energy comes from lithium-ion batteries with 240 kWh. Depending on the available charging capacity, they can be fully charged within two to eleven hours (at 150 and 20 kW). . . .
 
All via GCC:
DOE: 34 H2 fuel cell buses running in US, 37 more coming soon
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/10/20181027-doefceb.html

According to the US Department of Energy (DOE), 34 hydrogen fuel cell buses are already running in various states including California, Massachusetts, Michigan, and Ohio. An additional 37 fuel cell buses are planned to be on the roads soon.

Graphic shows US states with current and planned fuel cell buses. Illinois: 2 buses planned; Michigan: 2 buses current; Massachusetts: 1 bus current; Ohio: 6 buses current, 6 buses planned; California: 25 buses current, 29 buses planned.


Ballard fuel cell modules to power 4 California UPS trucks in CARB-funded project
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/10/20181027-ballard.html

. . . CARB has announced a preliminary funding award of $5.8 million through its ZANZEFF (Zero and Near Zero Emissions Freight Facilities) grant program, which is focused on accelerating the adoption of clean freight technologies and reducing air pollution caused by the movement of goods throughout the state of California.

The Next Generation Fuel Cell Delivery Van Deployment Project will develop, validate, and deploy four Class-6 fuel cell electric hybrid delivery trucks with a view toward commercialization of the technology. . . .

The completed trucks will be operated in parcel delivery service by UPS out of its Customer Center in Ontario, California.

Current battery-powered Class-6 UPS delivery trucks have a range limit that makes them suitable for only a percentage of routes, and often not for the majority of routes in any delivery area. This percentage can be further reduced if the delivery locations face unexpected heavier loads, hilly terrain or colder temperatures. As a result, for several months Ballard has been involved in the development of a UPS truck using a 30kW FCveloCity-MD fuel cell module as a range extender, thereby addressing these limitations by boosting drive range and providing certainty of completing daily delivery missions while maintaining zero-emission performance.

The project with CTE [Center for Transportation and the Environment] will test performance of UPS delivery trucks using larger fuel cell modules to provide primary vehicle propulsion. Ballard expects to ship these modules in 2019, with operation of the UPS vans planned to begin in 2020.
 
Via ABG:
Nikola Tre is a hydrogen semi for Europe
Nikola has announced a third fuel-cell semi
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/11/05/nikola-tre-hydrogen-semi-truck-europe/

. . . Nikola has announced a third fuel-cell semi designed with Europe in mind. Called the Nikola Tre (meaning "Three" in Norwegian), it's Nikola's answer to Europe's call for sustainable trucking.

The Tre is similar in power — if not in exterior design — to its American siblings. It'll offer from 500 up to 1,000 horsepower, with up to 2,000 pound-feet of torque. It'll be available in 6x4 or 6x2 configurations. Driving range between fill-ups will be between about 310 to 745 miles, depending on how it's configured.

Nikola Motor Company Founder and CEO Trevor Milton said of the Nikola Tre:

  • "This truck is a real stunner and long overdue for Europe. It will be the first European zero-emission commercial truck to be delivered with redundant braking, redundant steering, redundant 800V DC batteries and a redundant 120-kW hydrogen fuel cell, all necessary for true Level 5 autonomy. Expect our production to begin around the same time as our USA version in 2022-2023."

Nikola plans to offer a "Complete Leasing and Purchasing" program, which will cover the costs of ownership under a set monthly price, including hydrogen fuel, warranty and scheduled maintenance. Customers can trade in for a new vehicle every seven years. Whie the price hasn't been set, Nikola is currently taking reservations at its website. It says it will also offer the Tre tuck in Asia and Australia.

Nikola says it will begin testing the Tre in Norway around 2020. The company plans to have European hydrogen stations go into service in 2022, with a network covering most of that market by 2030.

The Tre will be officially unveiled to the public at Nikola World in Pheonix, Ariz. on April 16, 2019.
 
Via GCC:
First fully-electric vessels to operate in Canada with SCHOTTEL propulsion
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/11/20181106-schottel.html

. . . The new Amherst Island and Wolfe Island ferries will be propelled by four SCHOTTEL Twin Propellers STP 260 FP, each with an input power of up to 550 kW.

The main propulsion is provided by batteries with a diesel engine as backup to ensure mobility. The propulsion concept implies a power intake increase up to 650 kW due to an enhanced draught provided by the batteries. In accordance with their field of operation in the Lake Ontario/St. Laurence River of the Canadian province of Ontario, the thrusters will fulfil the requirements of Ice Class 1A.

The two new double-ended ferries will be operated by MTO, the ferry service of the Ministry of Transportation of Ontario. Damen’s full electrification concept for the ferries serving Kingston and Wolfe Island, as well as Millhaven and Amherst Island, will reduce emissions by the equivalent of 7 million kg carbon dioxide per year.

The Amherst Island ferry is due to be delivered in 2020. With a length of 68 m and width of 25 m, it will accommodate up to 300 people and 42 cars. The Wolfe Island ferry, scheduled for delivery in 2021, will have a length of 98 m and a width of 25 m for transporting up to 399 passengers and 75 cars. Both will operate at speeds up to 12 knots that equals the speed of conventional propulsion.
 
Via IEVS:
Nikola Motors Achieves $200 Million Fundraising Goal
https://insideevs.com/nikola-motors-achieves-200-million-fundraising-goal/

Nikola Motor Company has oversubscribed its C round of financing, raising $210 million in total – more than $100 million this summer and an additional $105 million in November.

The company said that so far it received $12 billion in pre-orders, with $380 million in just-announced Nikola Tre European orders. We are not sure how much are binding-orders but we assume not too many, as the production version of the hydrogen truck hasn’t yet been unveiled or demonstrated in action. . . .
 
Via GCC:
FedEx acquiring 1,000 Chanje electric delivery vehicles
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/11/20181120-fedex.html

. . . FedEx is purchasing 100 of the vehicles from Chanje Energy Inc and leasing 900 from Ryder System, Inc.

The purpose-built electric vehicles will be operated by FedEx Express for commercial and residential pick-up and delivery services in the United States.

The Chanje electric medium duty panel van van is equipped to haul up to 6,000 pounds and up to 675 cubic feet of cargo, all with zero vehicle exhaust emissions and up to 150-mile range on a single charge. The V8100’s 13.2 kW onboard charger supports Level 2 and DC fast charging.

The Chanje EVs are configured to match the current shelving, specifications, and workflow that FedEx Express delivery drivers use today, without the emissions, noise, or maintenance associated with gas or diesel vehicles.

The vehicles are manufactured by FDG in Hangzhou, China, and purchased through Chanje Energy Inc., the company’s subsidiary for global business. Ryder System, Inc. will provide support services for all of the vehicles. . . .
Are we to believe that there were no U.S.-built vehicles that were suitable?
 
GCC:
AVEVAI introduces IONA e-LCVs with more than 300 km range; supercapacitor-battery hybrid technology
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/11/20181125-iona.html

AVEVAI, a new B2B e-mobility and logistics solutions and technology provider based in Singapore, launched its range of IONA electric light commercial vehicles (e-LCVs) at the 5th Guangzhou International Electric Vehicles Show in China (16-25 November 2018).

The electric vehicles—in van and truck configurations—are designed specifically for use by delivery and service businesses and use supercapacitor battery hybrid technology to achieve an all-electric range of 330 km (205 miles) for the IONA Van and 300 km (186 miles) for the IONA Truck—up to 40% more than comparable e-LCVs. . . .

This system also extends the optimal productive life of the batteries, compared with existing products on the market. In addition to lowering the total cost of ownership, a factory warranty of five years or 200,000 km (whichever comes first) ensures that no further battery-related expenses are incurred by the vehicle owner or operator. . . .

The system can also harness and utilize up to 85% of energy captured through regenerative braking, which contributes to a substantial extension in range of up to 40% in real-life road tests.

Vehicle down-time is also reduced with fewer charging intervals and optimal charging versatility. A 22kW AC charging station will fully charge the IONA Truck in two hours, while the IONA Van takes less than four hours to be fully charged via a fast-charging terminal. Standard 220v charging is also available. The enhanced durability and performance of the batteries is assured in extreme weather conditions, enabling battery operation in temperatures as low as -40 deg. C and as high as +70 deg. C.

Designed by AVEVAI in Singapore, the IONA is built on a chassis developed in an R&D facility in Stuttgart, Germany, in cooperation with Daimler and Foton. The development process incorporates all performance and safety related elements, from brakes, bearings, drive and control systems, as well as insulation and NVH, to achieve the highest international standards for quality and meet stringent European safety regulations. . . .

The first two IONA models can be configured to exact customer requirements, with short and long wheel-base versions capable of carrying a payload of up to 2,500 kg and as much as 18 m3 of cargo.

IONA models will be distributed directly by AVEVAI, with first deliveries from February 2019 and deliveries to other markets, including Europe and the US, from May 2019.

A manufacturing partnership has been agreed with China Foton Motor Co., Ltd. to build the vehicles at the FOTON facilities in Shangdong, China, ensuring the highest levels of build quality. With the factory and test drive facilities already established, orders are being taken immediately with minimal build time.

The AVEVAI company name is formed from the words ‘Autonomous Vehicle; Electric Vehicle; Artificial Intelligence’, hinting at future developments planned in other key mobility-focussed technologies. . . .
 
GCC:
Scania, partners developing fuel cell electric refuse truck
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/12/20181210-scania.html

Scania, a member of the Volkswagen Group, is developing a fuel cell refuse truck together with Renova, a waste handling company in western Sweden, fuel cell manufacturer Powercell Sweden AB, and JOAB, a manufacturer of truck bodies. The truck will feature a fully electrified powertrain as well as an electrified compactor.

Refuse trucks often operate in residential areas in the early hours of the morning. With reduced emissions and noise, electric vehicles are especially attractive in these areas. Renova and other waste handling companies have previously carried out trials with electric refuse trucks but this will be the first with fuel cells.

  • Electrification using fuel cells fuelled by hydrogen is a highly appealing alternative for heavy commercial vehicles such as refuse trucks. The trucks benefit from all the advantages of electrification while maintaining some of the best aspects of fossil-fuel operations, namely range, hours in service and payload.

    —Hans Zackrisson, Head of Development at Renova. . . .

To help fund the project to build an electrified truck the four companies jointly applied for and been granted a governmental subsidy from the Swedish Energy Agency within the framework, Strategic Vehicle Research and Innovation, FFI. FFI is a partnership between the Swedish Government and the automotive industry for the joint funding of research, innovation and development. FFI focuses on the areas of Climate, Environment and Safety.

The Royal Institute of Technology, KTH, will also participate in the project which comprises development, construction and operation of the truck. The fuel cell refuse truck is expected to be delivered in the end of 2019/beginning of 2020. . . .
 
Electrification using fuel cells fuelled by hydrogen is a highly appealing alternative for heavy commercial vehicles such as refuse trucks. The trucks benefit from all the advantages of electrification while maintaining some of the best aspects of fossil-fuel operations, namely range, hours in service and payload.

—Hans Zackrisson, Head of Development at Renova


I agree with this. Rather than trying to develop a third, competing, huge fueling infrastructure for electric fuel cell cars, they should be focusing on large trucks - especially fleet trucks.
 
GCC:
Volvo Trucks to demonstrate Volvo VNR electric trucks in California in 2019; commercialize in NA in 2020
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/12/20181212-volvo.html

Volvo Trucks will introduce all-electric Volvo VNR regional-haul demonstrators in California next year, operating in distribution, regional-haul and drayage operations. Sales of the VNR Electric in North America will begin in 2020.

The Volvo VNR Electric demonstration units will be based on the proven propulsion and energy storage technology currently being used in the Volvo FE Electric, which Volvo Trucks presented in May and will begin selling in Europe in 2019 (earlier post), and builds on the Volvo Group’s accumulated expertise in electrified transport solutions. Sister company Volvo Buses has sold more than 4,000 electrified buses since 2010. . . .

Introduction of the Volvo VNR Electric models are part of a partnership, known as LIGHTS (Low Impact Green Heavy Transport Solutions) between the Volvo Group, California’s South Coast Air Quality Management District (SCAQMD), and industry leaders in transportation and electrical charging infrastructure.

The California Air Resources Board (ARB) has preliminarily awarded $44.8 million to SCAQMD for the Volvo LIGHTS project. The Volvo LIGHTS project will involve 16 partners, and will transform freight operations at the facilities of two of the United States’ top trucking fleets. . . .
 
GCC: HYON receives PILOT-E funding for two zero-emissions maritime projects using fuel cells and green H2
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/12/20181215-hyon.html

HYON AS has, together with partners, been awarded grants under Norway’s PILOT-E scheme for the development and realization of two maritime projects; a high-speed ferry and a short-sea freighter. The ambitions of both projects are to realize zero-emission propulsion via fuel cells using cost-efficient hydrogen produced from electrolysis based on renewable energy. . . .

The projects are:

  • Project ZEFF – Zero Emission Fast Ferry. The vessel will utilize foils that lift the vessel out of the water and will have cruise speed between 25 and 45 knots. The craft will operate without CO2, NOx, SOx and particulate matter emissions. Propulsion power will be produced by hydrogen fuel cells and batteries. The vessel will have approximately 45% lower energy consumption than current vessels per passenger-km, and can be made with varying size and capacity, from 100 to 300 passengers.

    Project SeaShuttle – Zero emission coastal freighter with automated cargo handling. The project goal is to develop and realize profitable emission-free container transport for short-sea market based on hydrogen fuel cells. The ship concept will be moving transport of cargo from road to sea and will include autonomous cargo handling in achieving cost-effectiveness. . . .

The PILOT-E scheme provides funding for Norwegian trade and industry and has been launched as a collaboration between the Research Council, Innovation Norway and Enova. Final agreements for the grant will be signed early 2019, upon which the project will commence immediately thereafter. . . .

Zero-emissions maritime vessels are expected to be in high demand—both within maritime segments where first-generation solutions, such as zero-emissions ferries, are already available, and in new segments, such as fast-ferries—and within the offshore industry and fisheries/aquaculture. With regard to ferries, about 70 ferry routes involving 100 ferries will be put out to tender and set into operation in the near future. Many of these tenders will specify requirements regarding reduced greenhouse gas emissions. This means that there is a large, growing market for the solutions that receive support under the PILOT-E scheme.
 
GCC:
Porsche commissions MAN electric eTruck for green logistics at Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/12/20181215-porsche.html

. . . The battery-powered eTruck is a MAN eTGM 18.360 4x2 LL. The type designation indicates that the truck is a semitrailer tractor and belongs to the 18-tonne weight class, while the overall combination with a semitrailer is designed for a total weight of 32 tonnes in delivery traffic.

The 360 figure represents the horsepower of the 265 kW eTruck. Lithium-ion batteries with a storage capacity of 149 kWh are used to store energy, making it possible for the eTruck to cover a range of 130 kilometers (81 miles). . . .

The electric commercial vehicle will be used for deliveries on the almost 19-kilometer (12-mile) route between the Porsche factory in Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen and the Freiberg am Neckar site operated by its logistics partner LGI. Using the eTruck avoids more than 30,000 kilograms of CO2 that would otherwise be emitted each year.

The charging station for the electric truck is also located in Freiberg. It is the first model using the new high-power charging infrastructure developed by Porsche Engineering for the future high-power charging network that will be operated by the Ionity joint venture.

The maximum charging capacity for this logistical application is 150 kW, which is sufficient to charge the electric truck to travel a further 100 kilometers in 45 minutes. As at all Porsche charging stations, the vehicle is charged using natural power, i.e. green energy from renewable sources.

In producing the eTruck for Porsche, MAN passes another milestone on its e-mobility roadmap, according to which the first small series of the MAN eTGM is planned from early 2019. . . .
 
GCC:
Toyota and Kenworth collaborate to develop 10 hydrogen fuel-cell T680 trucks as part of ZANZEFF grant
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/01/20190108-toyotakenworth.html

Kenworth Truck Company and Toyota Motor North America are collaborating to develop 10 zero-emission Kenworth T680s powered by Toyota hydrogen fuel cell electric powertrains.

This collaboration is part of a $41-million Zero and Near-Zero Emissions Freight Facilities (ZANZEFF) grant preliminarily awarded by the California Air Resources Board (CARB), with the Port of Los Angeles as the prime applicant. (Earlier post.)

The grant monies are part of a larger $82-million program that will put fuel cell electric tractors, hydrogen fueling infrastructure, and zero emissions cargo handling equipment into operation in the ports and Los Angeles basin in 2020.

The Kenworth T680s will transport cargo across the Los Angeles basin and to inland cities such as Ontario and San Bernardino . . . thanks to their fully electric hydrogen fuel cell powertrain integrations co-developed by Kenworth and Toyota. . . .

The hydrogen fuel cell electric powered Kenworth T680s will have a range of more than 300 miles under normal drayage operating conditions.

The program will also fund foundational hydrogen fuel infrastructure, including two new fueling stations that, subject to a final investment decision by Equilon Enterprises LLC (dba Shell Oil Products US), will be developed through Shell Oil Products US, to support the operation of the fuel cell electric trucks in Southern California.

Also GCC:
Alstom and Eversholt Rail unveil a new hydrogen train design for the UK
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/01/20190108-breeze.html

. . . The train, codenamed Breeze, will be a conversion of existing Class 321 trains, reengineering some of the UK’s most reliable rolling stock. These trains could run across the UK as early as 2022.

The rolling stock conversion will be carried out by Alstom, working in partnership with Eversholt Rail and building upon an established business relationship spanning over 15 years and across multiple rolling stock fleets. This proven and reliable Class 321 is an excellent fit in terms of characteristics, fleet size and availability for conversion to a Hydrogen Multiple Unit (HMU).

Alstom and Eversholt Rail are working closely with industry stakeholders to develop the business cases and evaluate detailed introduction plans for fleets of these innovative trains and the associated fuelling infrastructure. Alstom and Eversholt Rail also confirmed that their initial, comprehensive engineering study is now complete, and the train design concept finalized.

The technical solution defined is the first to allow a hydrogen train to fit within the standard UK loading gauge (maximum height and width for railway vehicles and their loads to ensure safe passage through bridges, tunnels and other structures), and it will also create more space for passengers than the trains they are intended to replace. . . .

The news follows the introduction in September of Alstom’s Coradia iLint hydrogen trains in Germany (earlier post), where they now operate in regular passenger service on a daily basis. There is growing interest in Alstom’s hydrogen technology worldwide, including in France where the President of the Occitanie region, Carole Delga, recently announced a proposal to introduce the technology on trains there. . . .
 
GCC:
DOE: 1 fuel cell bus in US has exceeded the DOE/DOT target of 25,000 hours; more getting close
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/01/20190125-fceb.html

One fuel cell electric bus (FCEB) operating in the United States has surpassed 29,000 hours of drive time and nine buses have exceeded 20,000 hours without major repairs or replacement of the fuel cell stack, according to the US Department of Energy (DOE). This is comparable to the life expectancy of a diesel engine in a transit bus.

Diesel buses have an engine that is sometimes rebuilt halfway through its usable life at 6 years/250,000 miles on average. The National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) has collected data on fuel cell buses for more than 8 years. . . .
Direct link:
Fuel Cell Buses in U.S. Transit Fleets:
Current Status 2018
https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy19osti/72208.pdf
 
GCC:
DHL to roll out 63 Workhorse electric delivery vans in US; first 30 in SF Bay area
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/02/20190205-dhl.html

. . . Capable of running up to 100 miles on a charge, the vans have ultra-low floors to reduce physical stress on workers’ knees and back, and a high roof design that maximizes cargo space in a small footprint (1,008 cubic feet of cargo capacity).

The NGEN-1000 GEN 1000 supports up to 6,000 lbs. payload with 1,000 ft3 cargo space. The all-wheel drive van gets 50 MPGe and delivers 100 miles all-electric range. . . .
 
RegGuheert on February 1 said:
128 stations * 32 tonnes/station/day * 30 days/month * 1000 kg/tonne * 53 kWh/kg * $0.10/kWh = $651 MILLION per month, JUST for electricity.

But how much revenue will they collect per month from these 8000 trucks?
8000 trucks * 5000 $/truck/month = $40 MILLION per month

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

They won't be able to shut the doors to this place fast enough!
I wrote that just over a year ago. Today, I see this: Electrek: Nikola Motors announces all-electric version of the semi truck as Tesla Semi changes the game:
Electrek said:
Nikola Motors, an electric and hydrogen truck startup, is announcing new all-electric versions of their semi trucks in order to compete with Tesla Semi.
But don't expect Nikola to tell us that the hydrogen idea was an immensely stupid one:
Electrek said:
The company says that this announcement does not affect its plan for hydrogen stations and they plan hydrogen versions of their trucks.
Electrek has a similar take to mine on that aspect of the topic:
Electrek said:
Now they are still saying that the hydrogen fuel cell version is going to be an option, but I think this is a just a slow phase-out of the plan – though I’m sure Nikola will not admit that.
 
RegGuheert said:
RegGuheert on February 1 said:
128 stations * 32 tonnes/station/day * 30 days/month * 1000 kg/tonne * 53 kWh/kg * $0.10/kWh = $651 MILLION per month, JUST for electricity.

But how much revenue will they collect per month from these 8000 trucks?
8000 trucks * 5000 $/truck/month = $40 MILLION per month


They won't be able to shut the doors to this place fast enough!
I wrote that just over a year ago.
Arithmetic errors.

Daily hydrogen would be 128 stations * 32,000 Kg Hydrogen a day per station = 4096000 Kg per day hydrogen
Dispersed over 8000 trucks would be 512 Kg hydrogen per day.
Fuel cells are ~ 60% efficient and a Kg of H2 has 33 kWh so 512*33*0.6 kWh = 10137.6 kWh per truck daily
An electric truck like the Nikola is reported to use 2.2 kWh a mile so the H2 production would supply 10,137.6/2.2 = 4608 miles a day per truck
 
SageBrush said:
RegGuheert said:
RegGuheert on February 1 said:
128 stations * 32 tonnes/station/day * 30 days/month * 1000 kg/tonne * 53 kWh/kg * $0.10/kWh = $651 MILLION per month, JUST for electricity.

But how much revenue will they collect per month from these 8000 trucks?
8000 trucks * 5000 $/truck/month = $40 MILLION per month


They won't be able to shut the doors to this place fast enough!
I wrote that just over a year ago.
Arithmetic errors.
You're right. The $651 MILLION per month JUST for electricity should read $64 MILLION per month JUST for electricity:

8000 trucks * 50 kg/truck/day * 30 days/month * 53 kWh/kg * $0.10/kWh = $63.6M/month

The conclusions are the same: the cost of the electricity to operate the trucks is much more than their entire revenue stream.
 
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