You didn't answer -- did you read the study method I posted for you in the OP ?golfcart wrote: I don't road trip in my Leaf. I commute
If not, please read it before you post again in this thread.
You didn't answer -- did you read the study method I posted for you in the OP ?golfcart wrote: I don't road trip in my Leaf. I commute
I read the article and the .pdf document you posted describing the methodology. I stand by my statements regarding the usefulness of the study. If I chose to not post again in the thread it'll be because there isn't much more to say at this point...SageBrush wrote:You didn't answer -- did you read the study method I posted for you in the OP ?golfcart wrote: I don't road trip in my Leaf. I commute
If not, please read it before you post again in this thread.
Then you hopefully noticed that they followed the EPA drive cycles, but mangled the protocol for establishing driving RANGEgolfcart wrote: I read the article and the .pdf document you posted describing the methodology.
Keep arguing against that straw man, you're doing great.SageBrush wrote:Then you hopefully noticed that they followed the EPA drive cycles, but mangled the protocol for establishing driving RANGEgolfcart wrote: I read the article and the .pdf document you posted describing the methodology.
There is good reason that the EPA has a RANGE protocol for long drives, and it emphatically does not represent YOUR commuting habits. When people buy 250+ mile RANGE EVs they have road tripping in mind; they do not care about the 2-3 kWh hour heating penalty they incur driving around the city during their commuting. AAA is telling their readers that the practical range on a 25F day on a road trip is about half of rated and that is BS.
Unlike you, I own and drive an EV that I use for road trips of ~ 250 miles and I live in a cold (but not artic) climate. If I pre-condition the car a little, I consume ~ EPA expected despite running winter tyres, meaning ~ 250 Wh/mile. In nice weather with summer tyres I consume about 220 Wh/mile. I use cabin heating to supplement heat seating and to keep the windows clear. The cabin is cool and I am comfortable.
As for you, I'm going to recommend to the AAA that they write a follow-up article: "It takes Electric Energy to Heat up a Cabin after a Cold Soak in an EV."golfcart wrote: Keep arguing against that straw man, you're doing great.
They already wrote that article... hence this discussion. I thought that was obvious at this point from their testing method.SageBrush wrote:As for you, I'm going to recommend to the AAA that they write a follow-up article: "It takes Electric Energy to Heat up a Cabin after a Cold Soak in an EV."golfcart wrote: Keep arguing against that straw man, you're doing great.
Who wudda thunk !?!!
What a pile of reactionary, straw man stupidity.golfcart wrote:Be sure to
One of these years you just might catch on that an EV and an ICE are a bit different.like they would in their ICE vehicle
If you want FUD, sure.LeftieBiker wrote: The report is a big step in the right direction.