ripple4
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extra 12v outlets and LEAF-to-HOME at the same time

Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:35 pm

I had been planning this for a while and got my two extra 12v power outlet connected today. I used a 30amp cube relay to disconnect the plugs when the power is off. And I also took the ground from the ground point on the back of the motor assembly, not the battery, and took the positive after a 30 amp fuse. I used all 10AWG wire and ran it though the firewall in the fat rubber grommet behind the battery. The wires are zip-tied high and tight to stay clear of the steering column and the relay and all the connections are behind the center dash panel, which is a no-tool access point. The plug pod was purchased from amazon for $15, search for “Iztor 12-24V car dual Marine Cigarette Lighter Splitter Power Adaptor Sockets and USB Charger” I will use this for heated blankets and a 12v heater/defroster. Which together will draw more power then the stock 12v plug can provide.

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I also copied the upgrade from a post long ago (viewtopic.php?t=13097) and used the 175amp quick connector to the 12v battery to power a 1500w power inverter, for a “LEAF-TO-HOME” situation. I have a split-phase natural gas generator but its pretty loud, so I figure I can charge the car and power the house during the day, and then use the car to power the house at night. I do have a code complaint 10-circuit transfer switch, saying that just to head off the safety-patrol comments. I put the inverter in a suitcase to contain the wires and protect from damage. I did these two upgrades at the same time because one needed the other for the battery connection points.

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Re: extra 12v outlets and LEAF-to-HOME at the same time

Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:58 pm

Nice. I have the components for a similar L2H setup, but haven't gotten around to installing them. Did you crimp, solder or do both to the ring connectors?
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Re: extra 12v outlets and LEAF-to-HOME at the same time

Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:00 pm

I used the correct punch tool for the Anderson connectors and no solder. the correct tool must be used or it won't fit in the nice plastic housing. the positive jumper wire most visible in the photo was made with flattened 00 butt-splices that are soldered and heat shrunk, which is why they look flat. It worked out kind of better because I could drill the 8mm/10mm holes where I wanted. I used high dielectric rust-proofer to cover all exposed bolts.

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Re: extra 12v outlets and LEAF-to-HOME at the same time

Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:07 pm

Thanks.
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Re: extra 12v outlets and LEAF-to-HOME at the same time

Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:27 am

I use a pretty standard hex crimper set on my Anderson connectors.
It appears that if they are just smashed with a hammer they probably won't fit inside the plug any more.

For me I just have a forklift battery in the garage and an outback 24v inverter charger in the garage. Then just pull the meter and back feed the entire house.
2011 white SL leaf with 2014 batt.
Chargers: Panasonic brick moded for 240v, duosida 16a 240v and a 10kw setec portable CHAdeMO
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Re: extra 12v outlets and LEAF-to-HOME at the same time

Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:45 am

I'm planning on using ring connectors (to connect to heavy alligator clamps) rather than Andersons. It's a cheap setup that will be the second backup to a medium-sized dual fuel gen.
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Re: extra 12v outlets and LEAF-to-HOME at the same time

Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:26 am

How much did you pay for the installation?

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Re: extra 12v outlets and LEAF-to-HOME at the same time

Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:19 am

sunpraiser084 wrote:How much did you pay for the installation?
None of these links are advertiser links that I get commission from, just linking to the source I bought from out of courtesy to the requestor. I did the work myself so there was no labor charges. Besides only your friend who is also mechanic would install this stuff anyway, too much liability for a professional shop.

$166.92-Leaf to home costs:

$140- 1500w pure sine wave inverter [made $140 offer](https://www.ebay.com/itm/191734725815)
$14.90-175a Anderson plugs with dust cap (https://www.ebay.com/itm/152827713819)
$7.02– 150a breaker (https://www.ebay.com/itm/183592416901)
~$5- 1/4-20 stainless nuts and bolts (Menards)
Material on hand - 2” L Aluminum mounting bracket, ~15’ of 00 welding cable, ½” adhesive heat shrink tubing, 00 lug ends, 00 butt splices, kestler 10Sn88Pb2Ag solder, VHS camcorder briefcase and zip ties. Also here is the tool I used for the Anderson connectors it’s a T&B STAKON 8,6,4,2 punch crimper.

https://ibb.co/3sg2Mbb
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$26-Extra 12v power outlets:

$26-Extra 12v power outlets:
$14.70 -Outlet pod (https://www.amazon.com/Cigarette-Lighte ... B01DXD0SCA)
$6.30 – 30 amp fuse holder (https://www.ebay.com/itm/222869012649)
~$5 - Marine battery power connectors (Meijer general store) similar to the ground block used in this (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Blue-Sea-5024- ... 2400878076)
material on hand - 6’ each of red and black 10AWG car wiring, 30 amp cube relay, 10awg butt splices, 10awg punch crimper tool, ¼” adhesive heat shrink tubing, 10awg terminal ends and various zip ties.

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Re: extra 12v outlets and LEAF-to-HOME at the same time

Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:00 pm

The only thing I don't like about using the leaf as a power supply is the idle power draw.
If I remember correctly my leaf draws about 2 amps just to keep the DC to DC converter and inverter powered up while it's "on".
2011 white SL leaf with 2014 batt.
Chargers: Panasonic brick moded for 240v, duosida 16a 240v and a 10kw setec portable CHAdeMO
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Re: extra 12v outlets and LEAF-to-HOME at the same time

Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:07 pm

ripple4 wrote:
sunpraiser084 wrote:How much did you pay for the installation?
None of these links are advertiser links that I get commission from, just linking to the source I bought from out of courtesy to the requestor. I did the work myself so there was no labor charges. Besides only your friend who is also mechanic would install this stuff anyway, too much liability for a professional shop.

$166.92-Leaf to home costs:

$140- 1500w pure sine wave inverter [made $140 offer](https://www.ebay.com/itm/191734725815)
$14.90-175a Anderson plugs with dust cap (https://www.ebay.com/itm/152827713819)
$7.02– 150a breaker (https://www.ebay.com/itm/183592416901)
~$5- 1/4-20 stainless nuts and bolts (Menards)
Material on hand - 2” L Aluminum mounting bracket, ~15’ of 00 welding cable, ½” adhesive heat shrink tubing, 00 lug ends, 00 butt splices, kestler 10Sn88Pb2Ag solder, VHS camcorder briefcase and zip ties. Also here is the tool I used for the Anderson connectors it’s a T&B STAKON 8,6,4,2 punch crimper.

https://ibb.co/3sg2Mbb
Image

$26-Extra 12v power outlets:

$26-Extra 12v power outlets:
$14.70 -Outlet pod (https://www.amazon.com/Cigarette-Lighte ... B01DXD0SCA)
$6.30 – 30 amp fuse holder (https://www.ebay.com/itm/222869012649)
~$5 - Marine battery power connectors (Meijer general store) similar to the ground block used in this (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Blue-Sea-5024- ... 2400878076)
material on hand - 6’ each of red and black 10AWG car wiring, 30 amp cube relay, 10awg butt splices, 10awg punch crimper tool, ¼” adhesive heat shrink tubing, 10awg terminal ends and various zip ties.
Thanks for the info.

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