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Re: Official Tesla Model Y Thread

Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:20 pm

The midsections have similarities, but the noses and tails are all very different.
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Re: Official Tesla Model Y Thread

Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:16 pm

palmermd wrote: you are absolutely right. Other and Other #2 look a lot alike. And neither look like Model Y. If you want we can get back to Leaf and Versa looking a lot alike. That was always an entertaining discussion in a thread. It is not useful to compare what cars you think look like others. 10 people will have 12 opinions on the subject.
OTOH, there have been some, not necessarily in this thread, who have implied that Tesla has some sooper-secret formula that allows their CUVs to be much more energy efficient than others, as opposed to making a design choice like prioritizing aerodynamics over interior volume. BTW, do you really not see that the roof/rear profiles above are essentially identical, or were you just being difficult?
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Re: Official Tesla Model Y Thread

Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:11 pm

GRA wrote:
palmermd wrote: you are absolutely right. Other and Other #2 look a lot alike. And neither look like Model Y. If you want we can get back to Leaf and Versa looking a lot alike. That was always an entertaining discussion in a thread. It is not useful to compare what cars you think look like others. 10 people will have 12 opinions on the subject.
OTOH, there have been some, not necessarily in this thread, who have implied that Tesla has some sooper-secret formula that allows their CUVs to be much more energy efficient than others, as opposed to making a design choice like prioritizing aerodynamics over interior volume. BTW, do you really not see that the roof/rear profiles above are essentially identical, or were you just being difficult?
If you just look at the roof line then you can probably name 20 vehicles that all look alike. My point is that you can't just look at one item and say that they are the same. Yes, they follow the rules of physics to be efficient. But the two cars do not look alike unless all you look at is the roofline. There are tons of other details that make them look very different.

Ford truck and Chevy truck look a lot alike in silhouette, but they are very different once you look at the details.
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Re: Official Tesla Model Y Thread

Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:12 pm

palmermd wrote:
GRA wrote:
palmermd wrote: you are absolutely right. Other and Other #2 look a lot alike. And neither look like Model Y. If you want we can get back to Leaf and Versa looking a lot alike. That was always an entertaining discussion in a thread. It is not useful to compare what cars you think look like others. 10 people will have 12 opinions on the subject.
OTOH, there have been some, not necessarily in this thread, who have implied that Tesla has some sooper-secret formula that allows their CUVs to be much more energy efficient than others, as opposed to making a design choice like prioritizing aerodynamics over interior volume. BTW, do you really not see that the roof/rear profiles above are essentially identical, or were you just being difficult?
If you just look at the roof line then you can probably name 20 vehicles that all look alike. My point is that you can't just look at one item and say that they are the same. Yes, they follow the rules of physics to be efficient. But the two cars do not look alike unless all you look at is the roofline. There are tons of other details that make them look very different.

Ford truck and Chevy truck look a lot alike in silhouette, but they are very different once you look at the details.
Yet both are more similar than different, having the same basic job requirements. Both are essentially squared-off two box vehicles with rectangular cargo bays. Cosmetic differences are just that.
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Re: Official Tesla Model Y Thread

Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:39 pm

IEVS:
Watch Tesla Model Y Pre-Production Crossover Spotted Out Driving
https://insideevs.com/news/379657/video ... t-driving/


Video. I think the view from the rear's pretty ugly.
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Re: Official Tesla Model Y Thread

Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:00 pm

IEVS:
Tesla Model Y Recent CARB Cerifitation Suggests Range & Delivery
https://insideevs.com/news/392835/tesla ... -delivery/

. . . the CARB certification data suggests the upcoming Model Y's range could hit some 309 miles, as opposed to Tesla's website, which shows just 280 miles of range. Keep in mind that all of this is just preliminary at the moment. When we learn more, we'll either update this post or write another.

Also see IEVS:
Map Shows Ford Mustang Mach-E May Make Life Harder For Tesla Model Y
https://insideevs.com/news/392851/map-f ... a-model-y/
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Re: Official Tesla Model Y Thread

Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:05 pm

The earnings report on Wednesday mentioned that Model Y production ramp has begun at Fremont, with deliveries expected before the end of March.
The production ramp of Model Y started in January 2020. Together with
Model 3, our combined installed production capacity for these vehicles is now
400,000 units per year.

The ramp of Model Y will be gradual as we will be adding additional machinery
in various production shops. After such expansions are done by mid-2020,
installed combined Model 3 and Model Y capacity should reach 500,000 units
per year. We will start delivering Model Y vehicles by the end of Q1 2020.
The EPA range of the Model Y has been increased to 315 miles:
Due to continued engineering progress of the Model Y all-wheel drive (AWD), we
have been able to increase its maximum EPA range to 315 miles, compared to our
previous estimate of 280 miles. This extends Model Y's lead as the most energy efficient
electric SUV in the world.
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Re: Official Tesla Model Y Thread

Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:34 pm

IEVS:
See The Tesla Model Y With Roof Rack Attached
https://insideevs.com/news/400414/roof- ... a-model-y/


There's a video. I guess Tesla was forced to realize that many, perhaps most people who buy S/CUVs place a high value on flexible Utility, unlike many of the people who opted for the Model X with its gimmicky, unreliable FWDs that prevent the carriage of roof loads.
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Re: Official Tesla Model Y Thread

Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:40 am

Inside EVs: It's Time: Tesla Confirms Model Y Deliveries Will Start In March

Thought this was interesting:
...Both vehicles are pointed at as true cash cows for the company, but the Model Y will introduce some of the innovations that will make it a true revolution in manufacturing.

The first change will be the use of huge cast parts in the structure. That is expected to save time and effort in the manufacturing process. Elon Musk will probably detail that when the car is officially presented to his fans.

The second one – and probably as relevant as the first – is a massive reduction in wire harnesses. Analysts predict the car will have as low as 100 m of wiring and as much as 700 m. Even the most conservative prediction is half of what a current car needs.

If all this is true, the Model Y will probably cost a lot less to build than current Tesla vehicles. That implies beefier profit margins. The more the company sells it, the better...
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Re: Official Tesla Model Y Thread

Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:56 am

The first change will be the use of huge cast parts in the structure. That is expected to save time and effort in the manufacturing process. Elon Musk will probably detail that when the car is officially presented to his fans.
This article from 3 weeks ago has some pictures showing what they think might be evidence of the cast frame.
https://insideevs.com/news/396624/tesla ... e-casting/
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