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Re: I've changed my cabin filter and it was...

Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:15 pm

For my corolla I usually buy them for like $2.30 each, for the leaf like $4 a piece, the filter isn't totally neccesary but i do change it every year, why? It keeps the system inside clean, it prevents big pieces from getting caught in the fan, and the good filters do remove odors, so while the car wont stop working I find it neccesary to change it at least once a year.

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Re: I've changed my cabin filter and it was...

Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:14 am

This has to be one of the most entertaining threads I've read in a LONG time!

Ironically, those that never change their filters are getting BETTER filtration, for obvious reasons. Assuming air flow isn't horribly compromised, a used filter filters out more particles. Once the filter is full, though, I believe the fan motor would be compromised and would have to work harder, as I don't think there's a "bypass" for the air flow.

However, for those with sensitive noses, and anywhere but in desert areas, the odor of a 2+ year old filter is noticeable, and very unpleasant. All the organic matter in the filter, when humidity is high, can really come alive and create all sorts of bizarre fragrances.

YMMV...in desert areas, there's little or no organic matter, only dust and other very dry particles, probably very little odor of any kind.

Thanks for the entertaining read!
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Re: I've changed my cabin filter and it was...

Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:43 am

gncndad wrote:This has to be one of the most entertaining threads I've read in a LONG time!

However, for those with sensitive noses, and anywhere but in desert areas, the odor of a 2+ year old filter is noticeable, and very unpleasant. All the organic matter in the filter, when humidity is high, can really come alive and create all sorts of bizarre fragrances.

YMMV...in desert areas, there's little or no organic matter, only dust and other very dry particles, probably very little odor of any kind.

Thanks for the entertaining read!
Glad we could entertain you :lol:
I showed my daughter the Russian youtube video and while she also got a kick out of it, she thought our '12 Leaf(which she mostly drives) could use a filter change :( She said it kind of smells musty when using the HVAC, most noticeably the A/C. Now I've smelt it before in the summer(as I have on some other vehicles when it's humid out and I just assumed the evaporator coil(cold coil mounted inside of the dash) was full of moisture/water) but I always chalked it more up to just that, mold or mildew living on the wet evaporator coil and not necessarily the filter itself. People in the desert area probably don't experience condensate as much as us in more humid climates but it's always amazed me we don't have more of a problem with moldy evaporators. As the evaporator is deep inside the HVAC ducts, access is all but buried and no real way to clean it. I did see an episode of Motorweek where Pat Gauss mentioned using some sort of fogging method to spray from an aerosol can into the fresh air intake of the vehicle and it would presumably kill the mold/mildew and help eliminate the odor. Apparently, the best way to clean the evaporator coil is to dismantle the dash and HVAC system and spray the coil with bleach water and then fresh water but that method can cost hundreds if not more dollars, all due to accessing the buried coil :(
I guess in the case of my '12 I just might try one of those charcoal/fabreeze filters Leftie spoke about. If/when this happens I'll report back just how hard it was to do, whether the filter was actually dirty and where I was able to find the filter and cost. Looking at the OPs video it's not really a job I'm looking forward to but I'm probably too cheap to actually pay to have it done :oops:
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Re: I've changed my cabin filter and it was...

Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:56 pm

Years ago, on the old Volvo newsgroup, I came up with a recipe for treating evaporator mold harmlessly and easily. Let me check...nope, can't find it. Basically, you mix vodka with vinegar - preferably apple cider vinegar, as it smells better. Then you put the mix in a spray bottle, and carefully - avoiding painted surfaces - spray it into both the fresh air intake above the hood, and , with recirculate engaged, into the little recirculate intake duct under the dash. No disassembly needed, no toxic chemicals like ammonia or bleach, and it smells...odd, but not Bad. Avoid DWI checks for a few days after applying. ;)
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Re: I've changed my cabin filter and it was...

Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:07 pm

jjeff wrote:... I did see an episode of Motorweek where Pat Gauss mentioned using some sort of fogging method to spray from an aerosol can into the fresh air intake of the vehicle and it would presumably kill the mold/mildew and help eliminate the odor...
One of the professional products is "Frigi-Fresh". The cheaper "poor-man's" fix is to spray a full can of regular Lysol into the intake while the AC is in operation (not in recirculate mode). Stop the system when the lysol runs out to allow the coils to stay wet with the solution and then let the car sit overnight. The downside is it takes awhile for the Lysol smell to dissipate.

For prevention, make a habit to turn off the AC when a few minutes from your destination, and turn the fan up. This will help dry the evaporator coil so that mold growth is not promoted.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Re: I've changed my cabin filter and it was...

Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:27 pm

The Lysol method is probably more effective, but Lysol is nasty, toxic sh*t that very likely would not be approved for consumer use if it were a new product now. If you do use it, make sure to thoroughly ventilate the car, with blower running and all windows wide open, afterward.
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Re: I've changed my cabin filter and it was...

Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:32 pm

Jeff,

I suggest you spray whatever disinfectant you choose into the location where the filter goes with fan on high after you remove the old filter and before installing the new one.
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Re: I've changed my cabin filter and it was...

Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:52 am

If you read my previous post, I said that you do not HAVE to change the air filter. And I also said that if you really want to do it, then go for it.... Much like AIR FRESHENERS.... I just don't want a new person to cars to feel compelled to go to the Dealers and be "taken" for $200-300 for the air filter replacement.

Some people live buying and replacing air fresheners in the house and car. I have never found a need to use air fresheners daily..

So you folks that enjoy bashing those who have a black/ white opinion... Stop it... OH... Yes. I did not make a "racist" statement. So don't even try....

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Re: I've changed my cabin filter and it was...

Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:19 am

Not racist, but silly. I've never heard of a cabin filter change costing $200-$300. They are generally well under $100, although $90 is common.
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Re: I've changed my cabin filter and it was...

Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:24 pm

Yes this was a fun thread to read.
And I felt inspired to replace my cabin filter on my 2016 SV.

This was my first time replacing the cabin filter and It was quite easy. I followed the advise of removing the glove compartment completely. That was definitely the key for me. I don't think I could do it again without it removed - not enough room for my work.
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