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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:19 am

Evoforce wrote: Tesla is superior to all other BEV's.
To each, his own opinion!
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:23 am

^^Probably true, and if someone were to give me any EV I wanted, I'd probably pick a Tesla Model S. But I had to buy my car and as such, I am very satisfied with the Leaf I purchased. As always, YMMV

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Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:29 pm

Traded in my Leaf today for a Tesla Model 3. I purchased the $35,000 car and i was not disappointed. What a fantastic car! Looking forward to my first EV roadtrip this weekend.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:57 pm

palmermd wrote:Traded in my Leaf today for a Tesla Model 3. I purchased the $35,000 car and i was not disappointed. What a fantastic car! Looking forward to my first EV roadtrip this weekend.
Congratulations! Dare I ask how much Tesla gave you as trade in value for the 2011 LEAF?
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:22 pm

SalisburySam wrote:
palmermd wrote:Traded in my Leaf today for a Tesla Model 3. I purchased the $35,000 car and i was not disappointed. What a fantastic car! Looking forward to my first EV roadtrip this weekend.
Congratulations! Dare I ask how much Tesla gave you as trade in value for the 2011 LEAF?
I figured the car would sell private party for about 4k. Carmax offered 2k, so I asked Tesla and they also offered 2k. After a week or so of thinking about it I decided to just trade it in with Tesla. It was much easier that way. I did not need a ride to the delivery center, just left the car I came in with.

I got way more than 2k worth of upgrades on the car in the last week or two, which makes it much more palatable.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:02 am

palmermd wrote:
SalisburySam wrote:
palmermd wrote:Traded in my Leaf today for a Tesla Model 3. I purchased the $35,000 car and i was not disappointed. What a fantastic car! Looking forward to my first EV roadtrip this weekend.
Congratulations! Dare I ask how much Tesla gave you as trade in value for the 2011 LEAF?
I figured the car would sell private party for about 4k. Carmax offered 2k, so I asked Tesla and they also offered 2k. After a week or so of thinking about it I decided to just trade it in with Tesla. It was much easier that way. I did not need a ride to the delivery center, just left the car I came in with.

I got way more than 2k worth of upgrades on the car in the last week or two, which makes it much more palatable.
Thanks for sharing the details, much appreciated. I kept my 2012 LEAF (heated steering wheel, you know, not available on Model 3). I really do like my LEAF in so many ways...it just can’t go anywhere outside my city. You’ve confirmed that it isn’t worth much, as I suspected, to anyone but me.

BTW, you likely already know this, but there are at least three Tesla-related fora I subscribe to that you may find useful with your new car:

1- https://www.Teslamotorsclub.com for all Tesla vehicles and some solar and battery as well.
2- https://www.Teslaownersonline.com probably the most complete, informative, and useful forum, much like https://www.mynissanleaf.com in my opinion.
3- https://forums.tesla.com Tesla’s own forum. Good info, lots of valuable participation, but no search function built-in...have to use external searches. Still, if you keep up with it, lots of good info. And Tesla itself does not seem to participate oddly.

Enjoy the “3”! I certainly have.

Lastly, there is no exact equivalent for Teslas to the incredible LeafSpyPro for the LEAF. However, much of the same information and lots of charging and trip data ARE available through the Tesla app itself. If you’re a real data hound, you’ll want to get one (not more than one, they tend to not play well together) of the 3rd-party apps. You can read lots about these apps in the fora listed above. For me, the only one available last July when I picked up my Model 3 was “TeslaFi” at https://www.teslafi.com. It is $5/mo or $50/year and the amount of data you get as well as its presentation is pretty awesome. It keeps track of your firmware updates (number, date installed, days from previous update, etc.) and gives information about the Tesla fleet as a whole. Others, such as an app called “Stats” have come on the scene and more are coming. For me, these new apps don’t have a way of converting existing information into their apps so I’d lose all my TeslaFi data completely if I switched, so I’m sticking with TeslaFi. So far, I like it the best of what’s available, but that changes hourly in the app world.

Whatever you do, enjoy your new ride! (I may have mentioned that a couple of times already, but I like redundancy...again.)
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:17 am

Wow,. Thanks for the super detailed and informative post. I'll check out the other forums and apps.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:38 am

palmermd wrote:Wow,. Thanks for the super detailed and informative post. I'll check out the other forums and apps.
FWIW, TeslaOwnersOnline.com is the renamed Model3OwnersClub.com. It got created after the Model 3 reservations started (it's the "upstart") and then got renamed later when they realized they were being too selective. I personally prefer TMC.

TeslaFi is definitely something I highly recommend. The stats it collects are awesome. See this post for a view of the lifetime map of my S:
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-3306590
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:26 pm

IEVS:
Alex On Autos Presents Base Tesla Model 3 Standard
https://insideevs.com/reviews/346084/vi ... -standard/
Alex on Autos recently received his base $35,000 Tesla Model 3 Standard version, with only one option - Blue color (added for a $1,000 in this particular case).

The Standard version is kind of a software-limited Standard Plus version, which means slightly less range, power, acceleration, lack of some features, etc. The initial quick look at the car revealed so far only a minor downgrade of the interior and some small changes in the touchscreen interface. . . .
There will be a full review in a week or so, also a head-to-head comparison with the LEAF e-Plus and Niro EV.
Guy [I have lots of experience designing/selling off-grid AE systems, some using EVs but don't own one. Local trips are by foot, bike and/or rapid transit].

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:01 am

SageBrush wrote:
sparky wrote: They'll ship few to Norway in April and we'll read about the "Norwegian demand cliff".
:lol: :lol:
You are so right
What happened here?
April is off to a horrible start for Tesla in the countries in Europe where we get daily sales (registration) data: Norway and The Netherlands.
Compared to March, the daily sales rate in Norway in April thus far is down 82%, and in The Netherlands it’s down 76%.
For the more expensive and higher-margin Model S and X, Tesla is losing market share to Audi and Jaguar’s electric cars in the most dramatic of ways.
Audi eTron and Jaguar i-Pace are outselling Tesla Model X and S combined by a factor of 5.7 to 1 in Norway, and 9.7 to 1 in The Netherlands.
Tesla usually makes up for an April shortfall in the last month of the quarter, but this is a very deep hole from which Tesla now has to dig.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/425624 ... lands?dr=1
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