Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:Wow. This is the best you've got? So, because someone graduates with an econ and physics degree, they can't be an engineer, despite applying scientific laws towards the development of solutions to problem?
F@ck Yeah! Which part you did not get? Musk is not an engineer, period. He have to go to school and pass all the exams to be one. And after it is all done, he would be only a bachelor - the lowest denominator in the profession. You can not buy it with money or wealthy parents (not after the recent scandal with fake diplomas). Why do not you go and apply for an engineer position with degree in economics or physics, let us know how it went. Many start with engineering in colleges thinking they are going to make it, but then end up with degrees in business management, marketing, economics and philosophy and with lowest degree in physics he could be an assistant for real physicist in the lab, lol.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or serious, but here ya go: https://interestingengineering.com/can- ... ing-degree
Or just google for it to find a number of similiar opinions.
As a diploma'd engineer, I know a few other "engineers" who clearly don't deserve the title, and a few shade-tree mechanics who do. So I totally am on the same page about the "fake diplomas", but I think you don't fully understand what you've written.
Engineering is what a person does, and being an engineer is a reflection of how that person approaches things. For that reason alone, there are many people in engineering roles, who don't have a degree in engineering. Likewise, there are many with a degree (legitimate ones like my uncle), but aren't employed as engineers, because they're not up to the task.
People like you, who put so much weight on a "diploma", are why the paid school admissions scandal are even possible. Stop giving weight to those flimsy sheets of paper, and start judging people by their actions. You can't hold a "degree" in high esteem, and then denigrate those people who actually hold one in the next breath. There are plenty who worked hard for their engineering degrees (studying long hours to pass the exams), only to learn that applying what they've learned into real life was much harder than they thought.
After having said all this, I still don't get why you have a beef with my labeling Musk an engineer? He never bought his way to an engineering degree, nor did he pretend to work towards one, like the Stanford scandal. He earned a physics degree @ U.Penn, and was on his way to Stanford to earn an advanced physics degree when he dropped out. Physics is the basis for almost all engineering. And despite what his dad [who's a compulsive liar, and fathered a child with his stepdaughter - knew her when she was 4 years old] claims, Elon didn't receive help from his parents to pay for school and living expenses. So why the beef?