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Re: The new Nissan Leaf is a better car than the Tesla Model 3?

Mon May 13, 2019 11:15 am

Lothsahn wrote: It's unclear what the total repair cost over the lifespan of the vehicle will be for a Model 3 or 2019 Leaf.
Obviously, although my Tesla warranty is reassuring in conjunction with a long lived battery.
I'm not actually suggesting that the LEAF could never be a reasonable purchase if the price is right and the use profile accommodates battery degradation. My earlier point was that I do not compare the cars.
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Re: The new Nissan Leaf is a better car than the Tesla Model 3?

Mon May 13, 2019 1:51 pm

webeleafowners wrote:We will if we drive in winter but the reality is we do this trip to escape winter (or at least part of it) and head to our place in Palm Springs.

Is there any particular reason you are concerned about winter in the Eplus?
The car is heavier than the 40kwh Leaf, and reviews have noted that it feels heavier. That doesn't bode well for cornering on slippery roads.
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Re: The new Nissan Leaf is a better car than the Tesla Model 3?

Mon May 13, 2019 2:56 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
webeleafowners wrote:We will if we drive in winter but the reality is we do this trip to escape winter (or at least part of it) and head to our place in Palm Springs.

Is there any particular reason you are concerned about winter in the Eplus?
The car is heavier than the 40kwh Leaf, and reviews have noted that it feels heavier. That doesn't bode well for cornering on slippery roads.
So this reaffirms my assertion that I need to avoid snow the rest of my life. :)
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Re: The new Nissan Leaf is a better car than the Tesla Model 3?

Mon May 13, 2019 3:07 pm

A snow-hating Canadian, eh? Sort of like a Floridian who doesn't like humidity. ;)
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Re: The new Nissan Leaf is a better car than the Tesla Model 3?

Mon May 13, 2019 3:52 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:A snow-hating Canadian, eh? Sort of like a Floridian who doesn't like humidity. ;)
Yah here’s the thing. 80 percent of my Airforce career was with NORAD usually in very cold places. I have literally had my eyelids freeze while doing ILS checks on a runway. Soooooooo, that’s enough of that. :)
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Re: The new Nissan Leaf is a better car than the Tesla Model 3?

Mon May 13, 2019 3:55 pm

webeleafowners wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:A snow-hating Canadian, eh? Sort of like a Floridian who doesn't like humidity. ;)
Yah here’s the thing. 80 percent of my Airforce career was with NORAD usually in very cold places. I have literally had my eyelids freeze while doing ILS checks on a runway. Soooooooo, that’s enough of that. :)
I know that not all of Canada is snowy, so I hope you're in a coastal temperate zone. I'm guessing that that's the case in a BC valley...
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Re: The new Nissan Leaf is a better car than the Tesla Model 3?

Mon May 13, 2019 4:03 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
webeleafowners wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:A snow-hating Canadian, eh? Sort of like a Floridian who doesn't like humidity. ;)
Yah here’s the thing. 80 percent of my Airforce career was with NORAD usually in very cold places. I have literally had my eyelids freeze while doing ILS checks on a runway. Soooooooo, that’s enough of that. :)
I know that not all of Canada is snowy, so I hope you're in a coastal temperate zone. I'm guessing that that's the case in a BC valley...
Yepir. We live in the Okanagan valley. Very mild for the most part but hot summers. 245 wineries and a lot of orchards within 150 km of us if that gives you any idea. Grew up here, did a military career and now on career number two here. This career (RV industry...sales manager) allows for 3 or four months of winter off so we head state side. We have a place in Palm Springs.
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Re: The new Nissan Leaf is a better car than the Tesla Model 3?

Mon May 13, 2019 5:13 pm

You may want to consider an EV with TMS, in that situation. How warm is Palm Springs in Winter?
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Re: The new Nissan Leaf is a better car than the Tesla Model 3?

Mon May 13, 2019 5:44 pm

webeleafowners wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:
webeleafowners wrote:
Yah here’s the thing. 80 percent of my Airforce career was with NORAD usually in very cold places. I have literally had my eyelids freeze while doing ILS checks on a runway. Soooooooo, that’s enough of that. :)
I know that not all of Canada is snowy, so I hope you're in a coastal temperate zone. I'm guessing that that's the case in a BC valley...
Yepir. We live in the Okanagan valley. Very mild for the most part but hot summers. 245 wineries and a lot of orchards within 150 km of us if that gives you any idea. Grew up here, did a military career and now on career number two here. This career (RV industry...sales manager) allows for 3 or four months of winter off so we head state side. We have a place in Palm Springs.
In Palm Springs mid to low 20’s while we are there. Cool at night though. The desert can be quite chilly early morning.

Kind of ironic though. In our valley in BC it can get to mid to high 30’s in the summer. Hence all the wineries. Last year I saw my temp get to 8 bars after a 350 km trip and two DCFC’s. We hit 27 last week. Most of the time we are 6 temp bars though.
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Re: The new Nissan Leaf is a better car than the Tesla Model 3?

Mon May 13, 2019 5:52 pm

For clarity, your temperature numbers are in celcius, correct?
webeleafowners wrote: In Palm Springs mid to low 20’s while we are there. Cool at night though. The desert can be quite chilly early morning.

Kind of ironic though. In our valley in BC it can get to mid to high 30’s in the summer. Hence all the wineries. Last year I saw my temp get to 8 bars after a 350 km trip and two DCFC’s. We hit 27 last week. Most of the time we are 6 temp bars though.
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