Let people know what the limits of tools are. This is a request.OrientExpress wrote:Always do your homework first, and buy the right tool for the job.
I agree, and continue to try to drive that point home every time the chance presents it. The challenge of course is that my reach is limited, and as with just about every retail product sold today that involves a sales person, the limitations of a product are not always conveyed, and the consumer will assume a capability or does not even consider what they will be using the product for until they are actually using it. We have all been there. For BEVs, at this point in time IMO there are none on the market today that are capable of being a 1:1 analog for an ICE vehicle, especially for long distance travel. They are fine for round trips under 300 or so miles, but beyond that, they are simply not there yet.WetEV wrote: Let people know what the limits of tools are. This is a request.
Happy customers pay dividends in the future. Not so unhappy customers.
Just wanted to add I voiced my complaint on this. The articles indicate May 9, 2018 is the cutoff on when new cars had the update installed and my mfr date is shortly before that. Also good idea to mention that their cost/benefit calculation might not consider how this impacts reputation and future sales. I always state this as a limitation when talking about the Leaf, mention it on social media, so others may be inclined to go with a competitor if/when they buy an EV. The problem isn't big for me now but will be more so as battery degrades.TexasLeaf wrote:
Remember that the reason Nissan has stated that the #Rapidgate fix is not available in the USA is because people in the USA have not been complaining about slow charging caused by batter overheating, https://insideevs.com/nissan-leaf-rapid ... ix-europe/. If we are going to get the #Rapidgate fix in the USA then ALL OF US in the USA that have a 2018 Leaf (or a 40 kWh battery pack) need to call or email Nissan EVERY TIME we experience slow charging caused by high battery temperatures. The Nissan Consumer Affairs phone number is 800-647-7261, option 7.
there is no cutoff date in North America. I know several with 2019's who see the slowdown.markb1 wrote:Just wanted to add I voiced my complaint on this. The articles indicate May 9, 2018 is the cutoff on when new cars had the update installed and my mfr date is shortly before that. Also good idea to mention that their cost/benefit calculation might not consider how this impacts reputation and future sales. I always state this as a limitation when talking about the Leaf, mention it on social media, so others may be inclined to go with a competitor if/when they buy an EV. The problem isn't big for me now but will be more so as battery degrades.TexasLeaf wrote:
Remember that the reason Nissan has stated that the #Rapidgate fix is not available in the USA is because people in the USA have not been complaining about slow charging caused by batter overheating, https://insideevs.com/nissan-leaf-rapid ... ix-europe/. If we are going to get the #Rapidgate fix in the USA then ALL OF US in the USA that have a 2018 Leaf (or a 40 kWh battery pack) need to call or email Nissan EVERY TIME we experience slow charging caused by high battery temperatures. The Nissan Consumer Affairs phone number is 800-647-7261, option 7.
There are great 1:1 ICE replacement cars already being manufactured. For what most Americans want, Nissan refuses to produce that ICE replacement and charging infrastructure.OrientExpress wrote:I agree, and continue to try to drive that point home every time the chance presents it. The challenge of course is that my reach is limited, and as with just about every retail product sold today that involves a sales person, the limitations of a product are not always conveyed, and the consumer will assume a capability or does not even consider what they will be using the product for until they are actually using it. We have all been there. For BEVs, at this point in time IMO there are none on the market today that are capable of being a 1:1 analog for an ICE vehicle, especially for long distance travel. They are fine for round trips under 300 or so miles, but beyond that, they are simply not there yet.WetEV wrote: Let people know what the limits of tools are. This is a request.
Happy customers pay dividends in the future. Not so unhappy customers.
I'm intrigued, would you tell me which BEVs you believe are 1:1 replacements for ICEs?Evoforce wrote:There are great 1:1 ICE replacement cars already being manufactured. For what most Americans want, Nissan refuses to produce that ICE replacement and charging infrastructure.
I'd suggest bringing that discussion to another (more appropriate) thread.OrientExpress wrote:I'm intrigued, would you tell me which BEVs you believe are 1:1 replacements for ICEs?Evoforce wrote:There are great 1:1 ICE replacement cars already being manufactured. For what most Americans want, Nissan refuses to produce that ICE replacement and charging infrastructure.