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paulgipe

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We are approaching the two-year anniversary of leasing a 2017 Chevy Bolt EV. This is a good time to take stock of any degradation in the Bolt's traction battery capacity and how that compares with a 2015 Nissan Leaf we leased previously.

Everyone who uses a smartphone understands that lithium-ion batteries degrade over time and with use. The question is how much over what period of time.

The traction battery is at the heart of an electric vehicle (EV). It's what makes it go. Battery degradation is important because it can affect the EVs utility. Significant degradation can reduce an EVs range sufficiently to affect how the car is used. It can also affect the car's resale value.

Nissan was the first manufacturer to offer a mass-market EV. A few years after introducing the Leaf, Nissan began fielding complaints about rapid battery degradation in hot climates, such as Phoenix, Arizona. Subsequently, Nissan was forced to offer warranty battery replacements. They also began changing battery chemistry as a result. Our 2015 Leaf used what the online community called the "lizard battery" because it was presumably more resistant to high temperatures.

On the other hand, minor battery degradation is expected and may never affect how the EV is actually driven. A good example is the reported performance of Tesla's Model S. Though there's measured degradation, it's considered minor even in high-mileage vehicles that are several years old. (See Tesla battery degradation at less than 10% after over 160,000 miles, according to latest data for details on one vehicle and Tales from a Tesla Model S with 450,000 miles: Battery life, durability, and more on another.)

Chevy introduced the Bolt in late 2016. Since its introduction, at east one driver, Eric Way of News Coulumb fame, has driven the Bolt more than 70,000 miles and reported his findings. He concluded that the degradation wasn't significant: ~8%. It certainly hasn't affected how he drives his Bolt. He drives it hard--often charging it to 100% and then depleting it to only a few percent state-of-charge on his weekend forays. (See Way's video report at Chevy Bolt EV: 70,000 Mile Battery Degradation.)

Traction Battery Capacity & Range

The 2015 Nissan Leaf had a nominal 24 kWh traction battery. However, not all that capacity was used to drive the car. Some 22 kWh were usable, giving the car an official EPA range of 84 miles when the car was new. So though the car had a nominal 24 kWh traction battery, in practice drivers never saw that.

When we first began driving the Leaf, the car often estimated we had a range in excess of 90 miles and occasionally in excess of 100 miles on a full charge.

Unlike the Leaf, our Chevy Bolt's nominal traction battery capacity of 60 kWh is what was available to drive our car, giving it an official EPA range of 238 miles on a full charge.

There's some debate among the online community over whether the usable capacity of the traction battery is really 60 kWh. However, when we've run the state-of-charge down to around 10% of remaining capacity, the range indicator suggests we may have started with 60 kWh or a little bit more.

Early in our operation of the Bolt we drove it 238 miles around town here in Bakersfield. We consumed 55.3 kWh at an efficiency of 4.3 mi/kWh and had a SOC of 10% remaining. The range indicator said we had 27 miles left. In another case we drove it 232 miles, consuming 52.6 kWh at an efficiency of 4.4 mi/kWh with 14% SOC remaining. The range indicator said we had 36 miles left. (See Driving the Chevy Bolt EV--Our Impressions.)

The Bolt's estimate of the range available on a full charge hasn't changed much in the two years we've driven the car. Typically the mid-value of the Bolt's three range estimates has hovered around 250 miles of range on a full charge.

Charging & Driving History

We intentionally drove the both the Leaf and the Bolt in the manner we'd drive any car. We took no special precautions. We used the EVs as we'd expect most consumers would use them.

In the first year of operation of both vehicles, we often charged to 100% and just drove the cars until we needed to charge again. In the case of the Bolt, after the first year we began using "Hill-top Reserve" to charge the car up to 88% of its full capacity, but we weren't religious about it.

While Bakersfield may not be as hot as Phoenix, Arizona, it is hot here in the summer--blistering hot. It's not uncommon here for temperatures to exceed 105 F (40 C) for several days in July, August, and September. It's not unusual for temperatures here to exceed 113 F (45 C). Any EV that can survive several Bakersfield summers probably will not be susceptible to temperature degradation.

Leaf Spy & Torque Pro

There's no universally accepted way for consumers to measure an EV's traction battery capacity. In general, manufacturers prefer that consumers remain in the dark. As long as the car does what it was advertised to do, consumers needn't worry about their battery pack, or so their thinking may go.

Fortunately, pioneering EV drivers are technically savvy and some have hacked the communications from the cars' computers through the OBD (On-board Diagnostic) port.

For Nissan's Leaf, there's a commercial app, Leaf Spy, which interprets the signals from the OBD port with a compatible OBD reader. (See Leaf Spy--an Essential Tool for Serious Nissan Leaf Drivers.) One of the parameters measured by Leaf Spy is kWh of battery capacity.

It's not as simple for Bolt drivers, but hackers have determined how to configure Torque Pro to interpret the signals from an OBD reader. (I use the same OBD reader in the Bolt as I did in the Leaf. See Peeking Inside the Bolt's Brain Reveals Valuable Secrets.)

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Capacity Loss

We measured from a little less than 2 kWh loss of capacity in our 2015 Nissan Leaf to as much as 2.5 kWh over 8,500 miles of use in the 22 months that we monitored the EV's health. The loss of capacity ranged from 8.6% to as much as 11.5% before we returned the car to Nissan at the end of the lease. (See Battery Degradation Two-Year Status Report: 2015 Nissan Leaf.)

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Despite the Leaf's loss of capacity, it didn't affect how we used the car. It did reduce my comfort level on the steep climbs out of Bakersfield, but we didn't change how we drove the car.

We've since downsized to only one car and that's the Chevy Bolt. We're driving it much more than we ever drove the Leaf. Nevertheless, the traction battery has degraded half that of the Leaf over considerably more miles driven. Over 13,000 miles in 12 months, the battery has degraded 3.6% from a measured high of 61.1 kWh. From the nominal capacity of 60 kWh, the battery pack has degraded less than 2% over the nearly 20,000 miles we've driven the car.

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Other anecdotal data points can be tracked down on the various EV forums. For example, one forum participant bought a used Bolt with 100,000 miles and a loss of only 5.5% from the nominal 60 kWh for the Bolt as measured by Torque Pro. If this is the norm, it puts the longevity of the Bolt's traction battery on a par with that from Tesla. (The entire thread can be read at Battery Degradation after 100,000 miles?)

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Estimated Range

The estimated range of our Leaf gradually declined during the three years we leased the vehicle. The range decreased about 10 miles. At 4 miles/kWh that's a decline of about 2 kWh, which is in line with the measured capacity loss.

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We haven't seen any discernible decline in the estimated range of the Bolt. We still see the high estimate of range exceeding 300 miles, depending on how the Bolt was driven before we charged the car. On one recent 180-mile round trip to the mountains where we averaged 4.9 miles/kWh, the Bolt's high range estimate reached 353 miles--the best we've seen since we leased the car nearly two years ago.

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In short, the battery degradation we've measured in the Bolt is minimal and hasn't had any effect on our range or how we use the car.
 
Thank for the excellent summary of the battery degradation you have seen between a Bolt and a Leaf.

My wife's family lives in Bakersfield so I am very familiar with how hot "Bako" can get!!
 
It would certainly be great if the manufacturers had to submit degradation data for comparison purposes. I think that would be a great thing for the EPA to publish for the benefits of consumers.

Not to be the pessimist, but if you draw a line of regression off of your low range points (for all 3 bands) on the GOM, what does that suggest the rate of decline is for your bolt?

I don't have the great detailed data from my 2013 Leaf, but from my foggy memory, in winter, my GOM in year 0 was a low 87 miles and in year 6 it was a low of 71, or just about 20% total degradation. (Car was garaged, so winter charge up was at mid 40's in the depth of winter). We lost a bar after completing 5 years, and still had 11 bars after completing 6, so that seems about in line.

From your graph, it looks like you went from 200 miles to 175 miles at the bottom of the spikes, or 12%.

Now the real question. Have you done 353 miles on a charge?
 
DougWantsALeaf said:
Now the real question. Have you done 353 miles on a charge?

Doug,

No, but as I report I've done 200+ miles with a remaining reserve that brings it up to about 4 kWh/mi for 60 kWh. We typically drive 2-3 hours before we have have a bathroom break or take a walk. We charge then if we can. ;)

Paul
 
Yep, that sounds consistent with other Bolt owners I know. (some have told me they have achieved 275 miles (not sure if all highway or not), but haven't heard more then that).

I would have gone for the bolt over a leaf if the cargo (with seats up) was a bit bigger and my wife liked the layout (she thought it looked to much like a space ship). The car drives a bit different than the Leaf, which also wasn't to my wife's liking.
 
Nice report but really quite predictable. The LEAFs smaller pack means more cycling (which isn't all that bad) and more time at higher SOC (which is bad) than a larger pack. So the ratio of degradation pretty much matches the ratio of pack sizes.

The problem as I see it is the new Bolt has much more custom charging settings (ala Tesla) while the LEAF with its 250 mile range... is still spitting sand out of its mouth and wondering why its not enjoying it...
 
The jury is still out on whether lower depths of discharge on a larger pack completely explains the high degradation rate of 24 kWh packs. I'm still betting that active TMS reduces the degradation rate and that the 40 kWh and 62 kWh LEAF packs will suffer higher degradation rates vs EVs with similar sized packs that use a TMS.

We should have an answer to that in a couple more years...
 
alozzy said:
The jury is still out on whether lower depths of discharge on a larger pack completely explains the high degradation rate of 24 kWh packs. I'm still betting that active TMS reduces the degradation rate and that the 40 kWh and 62 kWh LEAF packs will suffer higher degradation rates vs EVs with similar sized packs that use a TMS.

We should have an answer to that in a couple more years...

That jury will never find its way back to the courtroom. Smaller packs by design, have to spend more time at a higher SOC mostly due to excessive range anxiety. So you have an 80 mile car and a 250 mile car. You drive 25 miles in each. Both have PLENTY of charge to do it again but which WILL be plugged in daily? TBH; both should have an SOC maintained no higher than 60% but that is not how we roll.

On the flip side, we have a TON of evidence of people running to very low SOCs daily, multiple charging events mostly DC, etc. and have far far far exceeded the curve.

We have a 2015 LEAF here and ya ya, its the Pacific Northwest the ultimate in Li longevity (which isn't all that true) but does it explain him at well over 130,000 miles and not even 'halfway' to losing his FIRST bar?

The reality is a car driven that much doesn't have time to sit at a high SOC for any significant amount of time. So its not the cycling we want to look at. Its the time at high SOC that is the killer. Its the lack of custom charge levels in the LEAF that is criminal. Tell the jury to go home. Case dropped from lack of evidence.
 
Now Leaf also has 62 kwh pack, so it might be more fair to compare leaf e+, bolt and model 3 std-plus. but this comparison results won't be available until years. only we have that results and if leaf e+ shows significant more degradation level than the others we can conclude active cooling system is a must.
 
I agree that its best to compare the Plus to the Bolt as your usage cycle (miles between charge) will be more consistent. In Jan/Feb we can start to get the 1 year view on those packs.

Does the Bolt give you access to the actual SOH or true remaining kilowatts?

My one concern with some of the Tesla degradation reports (with exception of those rares cases of fast degeneration - see tesloop), is that to base it purely on miles on the GOM doesn't account for driving style impacts (most Ev drivers get more efficient as they learn to drive an EV), and any behind the scenes algorithm changes. A Tesla (or Bolt, or Leaf) on miles of range basis could show 0 degradation after 5 years, though still have battery loss.

Even in my 2013 Leaf with 11 bars, my average 100% range was 81 miles. Thats only 4% loss from the EPA 84 miles when I bought the car. Truth was more like 20% or so.
 
my 2014 leaf's pack show 82 epa miles at its last service check at around 31000 miles, I didn't feel a lot range loss, but I didn't have leafspy with it.

my 9 month old model 3 shows about 4~5% range loss already. my friend's 10-month model 3 shows 3~4% capacity loss, though he drives less than me.
 
amissionleaf said:
my 2014 leaf's pack show 82 epa miles at its last service check at around 31000 miles, I didn't feel a lot range loss, but I didn't have leafspy with it.

my 9 month old model 3 shows about 4~5% range loss already. my friend's 10-month model 3 shows 3~4% capacity loss, though he drives less than me.

You cannot get a Leafspy reading and say that there is 4% "loss"... The actual distance between 100% and 96% is minuscule as it is impossible to measure % that accurately at the top end of the scale...

Also, you cannot estimate that you will be losing % points in a linear fashion.
 
powersurge said:
amissionleaf said:
my 2014 leaf's pack show 82 epa miles at its last service check at around 31000 miles, I didn't feel a lot range loss, but I didn't have leafspy with it.

my 9 month old model 3 shows about 4~5% range loss already. my friend's 10-month model 3 shows 3~4% capacity loss, though he drives less than me.

You cannot get a Leafspy reading and say that there is 4% "loss"... The actual distance between 100% and 96% is minuscule as it is impossible to measure % that accurately at the top end of the scale...

Also, you cannot estimate that you will be losing % points in a linear fashion.

You are right for model 3 I have no accurate means but read the displayed range with full charge against day 1 full range to estimate the capacity loss. it showed only 2% loss in April with a full charge, and recently 4.5% loss.
 
my 2014 leaf's pack show 82 epa miles at its last service check at around 31000 miles,


Do you mean "estimated 82 miles"? What you wrote doesn't make sense. The range estimator can't be used to gauge actual range unless you drive exactly the same route every time, and the weather doesn't change.
 
LeftieBiker said:
my 2014 leaf's pack show 82 epa miles at its last service check at around 31000 miles,


Do you mean "estimated 82 miles"? What you wrote doesn't make sense. The range estimator can't be used to gauge actual range unless you drive exactly the same route every time, and the weather doesn't change.

that's not my estimate but the dealer scanned the battery and gave me the official report at the last service 3 months before the end of lease
 
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