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Re: What's new for 2020?

Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:18 am

webeleafowners wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:19 pm
DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:13 pm
Does your show version 399 as well?
I’m not sure what you mean Doug. Version of what. Sorry. I’m not very informed on some of this stuff.
I think he was referring to the software version
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:31 am

I’m prolly in the minority here, but I think they could help themselves with some relatively minor content upgrades to improve perceived value. I don’t think big increases in range over the Plus are necessary, for example. Nor am I that concerned about charge times.

How about
  • One touch up/down on all windows
  • A 12v power port for the rear
  • Another USB port
  • Power passenger seat on SL
  • Memory positioning for driver’s seat SL
  • Tilt/telescope steering wheel
  • Auto dimming outside mirrors
There are probably a few others that would add value for not much cost.

I also think they should offer a sport package on all Plus models. Emotion sells. This is a fun car that goes under-appreciated. Fix that and sales will resume. Nothing too fancy. More steering weight and a bit more ant-roll bar. Maybe some aero treatment of the rocker panels, but that gets into money. Slightly wider tires.

Bottom-line: Stop playing the range game. Change the game. The Plus has enough range. Sell sexy but affordable. It’s not that big a stretch. This car runs rings around any Corolla, Sentra or Civic. They are the competition. Not Tesla.
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:38 am

I think the plus may have added a slightly bigger screen over mine but the screen is both small and the menu a bit old feeling in the 2018. Getting pandora or other apps to work is a battle unless I plug in and use android auto. Sometimes though i don't want to pull my phone out and plug in. My outback menu screen is much better.

I totally agree on the 12v power or USB plugs. It must be the only modern car with just one USB.
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frontrangeleaf
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:16 pm

Screen in the Plus is a little bigger. Plenty big in fact.

I like the interface. You can customize it to suit your needs pretty well, graphics are clear, nav maps excellent.

It doesn’t feel dated at all. Maybe not cutting edge but definitely not dated either. There’s always room for improvement. Works well as is.

I am not a fan of giant touch screens ala Tesla. Overdone and a step backwards ergonomically. Model 3 interior is a deal killer for me. Great car otherwise.
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:53 pm

frontrangeleaf wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:16 pm
Screen in the Plus is a little bigger. Plenty big in fact.

I like the interface. You can customize it to suit your needs pretty well, graphics are clear, nav maps excellent.

It doesn’t feel dated at all. Maybe not cutting edge but definitely not dated either. There’s always room for improvement. Works well as is.

I am not a fan of giant touch screens ala Tesla. Overdone and a step backwards ergonomically. Model 3 interior is a deal killer for me. Great car otherwise.
There are about half a dozen switches I would like separate and easy to get at with a single touch. The rest I’m okay with on something like the Tesla’s display.

We both live the model 3 but still chose to order an Eplus SL for a few reasons but one of them was the heated steering wheel. Here’s the thing. Without the heated wheel we would be wearing gloves. But you have to take your gloves off to use the Tesla touch screen. Sooooooooo. Just sayin. Can’t for the life of me think why they don’t have a heated steering wheel in a model 3. We have been using our heated steering wheel on our leaf here for the last three weeks already. Blowing warm air on the steering wheel is not the same.
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:18 pm

Here’s the thing. Without the heated wheel we would be wearing gloves. But you have to take your gloves off to use the Tesla touch screen. Sooooooooo. Just sayin. Can’t for the life of me think why they don’t have a heated steering wheel in a model 3.

That's something that hadn't occurred to most of us, I think! Tesla, in refusing to provide a heated steering wheel at least as an option, has made it quite difficult to operate their cars in Winter with the gloves that the lack of said heated wheel necessitates for those with poor circulation. This beats even the windows that freeze the Model 3 doors closed!
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:41 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:18 pm
Here’s the thing. Without the heated wheel we would be wearing gloves. But you have to take your gloves off to use the Tesla touch screen. Sooooooooo. Just sayin. Can’t for the life of me think why they don’t have a heated steering wheel in a model 3.

That's something that hadn't occurred to most of us, I think! Tesla, in refusing to provide a heated steering wheel at least as an option, has made it quite difficult to operate their cars in Winter with the gloves that the lack of said heated wheel necessitates for those with poor circulation. This beats even the windows that freeze the Model 3 doors closed!
Exactly. In the old days when we had one car with and one car without a heated steering wheel once fall came we ALWAYS chose the car with the heated steering wheel. I can’t say that we wouldn’t buy a model 3 because it doesn’t have a heated steering wheel but when we both made our list of pros and cons of the leaf we both had heated steering wheel as number one.
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:01 pm

frontrangeleaf wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:16 pm
Screen in the Plus is a little bigger. Plenty big in fact.

I like the interface. You can customize it to suit your needs pretty well, graphics are clear, nav maps excellent.

It doesn’t feel dated at all. Maybe not cutting edge but definitely not dated either. There’s always room for improvement. Works well as is.

I am not a fan of giant touch screens ala Tesla. Overdone and a step backwards ergonomically. Model 3 interior is a deal killer for me. Great car otherwise.
Is the plus interface different than the non plus or did the 2019 get an upgrade? No disrespect but the menu system in my 2018 is nothing to rave about. My 2018 outback is much better.
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:40 pm

Is the plus interface different than the non plus or did the 2019 get an upgrade?

It' my understanding that the ePlus gets the bigger screen, and the 2019 40kwh Leaf retains the smaller one. I've seen this mentioned a couple of times.
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:16 pm

I don’t miss the heated steering wheel. Tesla makes up for it with a reliable climate control app that can also preheat seats.
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