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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Thu May 23, 2019 3:28 pm

Triggerhappy007 wrote:What's your avg mph? What is your m/kWh at 70 mph? Thanks
I drive at 60-65mph, mostly highway commute. Never follow any car ahead, as I learned, with very low Cd it is actually bad for efficiency to drag behind other car. Used to commute Leaf in Eco mode at 50-55mph and mostly dragged behind trucks to stay at 4.6m/kWh on the same commute. BTW, Ioniq is the only EV besides Tesla with very low Cd=0.24, although speed is still a factor, but multiplier is lower, way lower.
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:27 pm

I used one of the ChargePoint 62.5 kW DC FCs (it's set to free) and there was an Ioniq Electric (very rare to see one in the wild in Nor Cal) ahead of me charging. I recall seeing him at 60.8 kW even though he was past 50% and I think 55%. Impressive. I don't recall when he hit a sharp ramp down but I guess it was probably at around the same SoC as the 175 kW line at https://insideevs.com/news/338777/lets- ... tric-cars/ for Ioniq.

It was a blue one and the driver was definitely not the same as another blue one that I'd seen using free public L2 charging before.

I knew my Bolt wouldn't get higher than 55 kW on that DC FC and that was definitely the case. IIRC, I was at around 52% SoC or when my Bolt started ramping down to ~38.x kW. I was planning to take off when I got ramped down to 24.x kW but it seemed like it was actually ramping down to 27.x kW. An e-Golf showed up while I was charging and I told the driver I'd take off when I'm down to 24 kW. I ended up just jetting at the 27.x kW mark.

I didn't show up nearly empty so I wasn't at full speed for too long. In the end, the session resulted in 18.47 kWh in 27 minutes. While talking to the e-Golf guy, my thermal management kicked in w/the loud AC compressor going and warm air being blown into the "engine" compartment.

Side note: Was in SF earlier today and saw an i-MiEV on the road. Sightings of those in the wild are very rare.

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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:26 pm

cwerdna wrote: Side note: Was in SF earlier today and saw an i-MiEV on the road. Sightings of those in the wild are very rare.
Oddly enough, I've seen two iMiEVs in the past month in the east bay, but I probably hadn't seen one for a year or more before that, and I think my total number of sightings ever is still in the single digits. As a local/commute car, along with Smart EDs they still make a ton of sense, or they would if they just had more range.
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:01 pm

2020 Ioniq EV has lots of improvements:
https://insideevs.com/news/384815/2020- ... s-angeles/

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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:25 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:01 pm
2020 Ioniq EV has lots of improvements:
https://insideevs.com/news/384815/2020- ... s-angeles/

I don't see any signs of a heated steering wheel, and there is no mention of one. Anyone know...?

My housemate's PIP may be departing, and I think I've convinced her to replace it with a full EV. Now I just have to find her a nice slow, small, roomy EV with at least 120 miles of real world range...
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:56 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:25 pm
cwerdna wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:01 pm
2020 Ioniq EV has lots of improvements:
https://insideevs.com/news/384815/2020- ... s-angeles/
I don't see any signs of a heated steering wheel, and there is no mention of one. Anyone know...?
I did a tiny bit of digging and found https://www.hyundainews.com/models/hyun ... c/features. I downloaded the features and specs PDFs and didn't see any mention of it.

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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:01 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:56 pm
LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:25 pm
cwerdna wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:01 pm
2020 Ioniq EV has lots of improvements:
https://insideevs.com/news/384815/2020- ... s-angeles/
I don't see any signs of a heated steering wheel, and there is no mention of one. Anyone know...?
I did a tiny bit of digging and found https://www.hyundainews.com/models/hyun ... c/features. I downloaded the features and specs PDFs and didn't see any mention of it.
Thanks. Another asshat manufacturer. It is available on the Kona - if you opt for the top of the line luxury version with leather seats.
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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:32 am

cwerdna wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:01 pm
2020 Ioniq EV has lots of improvements:
https://insideevs.com/news/384815/2020- ... s-angeles/
And one major downgrade - max DC charge rate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsWq_YrbDhs

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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:05 am

^^^
Wow. I only skipped around the video a bit but that seems significantly worse than even the Bolt.

At least Bolt on a powerful enough DC FC can hit 55 kW until about ~50 to 55% SoC (I personally have numerous times).

I skipped around at his link to the previous gen Ioniq EV charging session and can see the previous gen was MUCH better.

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Re: Hyundai Ioniq BEV, hybrid, and PHEV.

Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:06 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:05 am
^^^
Wow. I only skipped around the video a bit but that seems significantly worse than even the Bolt.

At least Bolt on a powerful enough DC FC can hit 55 kW until about ~50 to 55% SoC (I personally have numerous times).

I skipped around at his link to the previous gen Ioniq EV charging session and can see the previous gen was MUCH better.
DC charge rate from that video (connected to 350kW charger):
10-50% 40-45kW
51-67% 36kW
68-73% 23kW
74-90% 15kW

This IMO relegates new IONIQ into commuter car role because such low DC charge rate makes it really impractical for longer trips

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