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These Asian economies seem to have contained the coronavirus outbreak. Here’s how they did it - refers to Taiwan, Hong Kong and Vietnam
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/how-taiwan-hong-kong-vietnam-contain-the-coronavirus-outbreak.html
cwerdna said:
Have only had a chance to skim this.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1260784481159442434.html and https://twitter.com/laurelchor/status/1260784761401782273.
I’ve landed in Hong Kong after flying from Paris CDG, via London Heathrow. I now have to wait ~8 hours before I get my #COVID19 test results and thus have ample time to tweet about my experience.
Was interesting. They also on Twitter wrote:
If I broke my quarantine, I could be jailed for up to 6 months and fined up to HK$25,000 (US$3,225). The HK government also encourages people to report quarantine breakers. I would be genuinely afraid of the public wrath if I were to step outside wearing my bracelet.
The above is pretty hardcore. If we had something like that in the US, there'd be plenty of people bellyaching about the time, their freedom, etc.

Parts of Asia that relaxed restrictions without a resurgence in coronavirus cases did these three things
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/coronavirus-lessons-learned-in-asia-show-us-is-at-risk-of-a-resurge-in-cases-as-states-reopen-businesses.html is an old article now.
- South Korea and Hong Kong successfully relaxed pandemic restrictions without having another rise in cases by data sharing, using targeted testing and contact tracing.
- The varying results of efforts across Asia to contain the virus and reopen society present policy options and perhaps lessons for countries behind on the outbreak’s timeline.
- Public health specialists who spoke with CNBC said they’re not confident U.S. officials are taking note of what’s working and not working in Asia.

NPR White House List Of Testing Labs Wasn't Helpful, States Say
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/05/14/855550073/white-house-list-of-testing-labs-wasnt-helpful-states-say - the text there is in more detail than the audio version I listened to via their app
 
Masks work.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/coronavirus-wearing-a-mask-can-reduce-transmission-by-75percent-new-study-claims.html

Not for protecting you, for protecting others from you, if you happen to be infected and don't know it.

Just wearing masks and stopping large gatherings of people might be enough to lower the R value below 1.0.

Trump is discouraging mask wearing (other than White House staff, of course, to protect Trump). He is killing his followers.
 
CDC tracks cluster of coronavirus cases in rural Arkansas to church, raising alarm on religious gatherings
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/cdc-tracks-cluster-of-coronavirus-cases-in-rural-arkansas-to-church-raising-alarm-on-religious-gatherings.html
At the Arkansas church, the pastor and his wife were the first two confirmed cases of Covid-19 in the county of about 25,000, the CDC says. Officials from the Arkansas Department of Health began an investigation on March 16 to understand the source of transmission and to identify others who might have been exposed.

The investigation traced the two infections to a three-day children’s event held at the church between March 6 and March 8 and a Bible study group held on March 11.

The CDC didn’t identify the church, but the Arkansas Democrat Gazette reported March 23 that 34 members of the First Assemblies of God Church in Greers Ferry who attended a children’s event there tested positive for the virus.

The CDC study said 92 attendees were contacted by health officials. Of those, 45 people were tested for Covid-19, 35 of those tests were positive and three of the people died. Asymptomatic attendees were not “routinely tested,” the CDC said.

Spread of the virus within this event also leaked into the broader community, the CDC researchers said. At least 26 people who reported contact with attendees of the church tested positive for Covid-19 and one of them died, the researchers said.
 
How about the 7 states that never shut down it seems they are containing the out break?
Oh and at what point are "they going to be sorry they didn't"? I was hearing that alot 6 weeks ago, not a peep any more.
 
Oilpan4 said:
How about the 7 states that never shut down it seems they are containing the out break?
Oh and at what point are "they going to be sorry they didn't"? I was hearing that alot 6 weeks ago, not a peep any more.
What are those 7? Are the ones at https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/politics/asa-hutchison-arkansas-coronavirus/index.html what you had in mind?

I heard about Brazil being in trouble on TV last night. https://time.com/5837434/brazil-coronavirus-covid-19-latin-america/ mentioned roughly the figures that article lists.
As of this week, those respecting social isolation ranged from 40% to 55% of people, depending on the state
...
And so the system is quickly becoming overwhelmed. Eight state capitals have ICU occupancy of more than 90%,
 
Yeah that's precisely what I was talking about, that article is about 5 weeks old,
It must have gotten so bad the media can't speak of it. To speak of it anymore would be detrimental to their lockdown everyone, everything, everywhere narrative.
 
One thing the US has a lot of is jerks.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/19/costco-employee-takes-customers-cart-away-refusing-to-wear-mask-coronavirus/?mod=article_inline
 
WetEV said:
One thing the US has a lot of is jerks.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/19/costco-employee-takes-customers-cart-away-refusing-to-wear-mask-coronavirus/?mod=article_inline

"I'm not a f*ing sheep.... I'm a f*ing jackass."
 
WetEV said:
One thing the US has a lot of is jerks.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/19/costco-employee-takes-customers-cart-away-refusing-to-wear-mask-coronavirus/?mod=article_inline

Jerks. Yes.

It boggles the mind how bad the red/blue divide has gotten in this country, with those on the red side wiling to put themselves and others in danger to "own the libs". And let's be honest - that's really all most of this is.

Blue:

Stay home.
Wear a mask if you can't.
Follow the advice of scientists.

Red:

I wanna haircut/drink/go to the beach!
I ain't wearin' no mask!
Bleach cocktail with a side of fish tank cleaner? Yes, please!
 
Using fish tank cleaner to cure trumpvirus is not the real story, what we were told was a smoke screen.

https://news.yahoo.com/woman-blamed-trump-giving-her-133613382.html

Unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you look at it, no one is dumb enough to take fish tank cleaner to cure trumpvirus.
But they're dumb enough to poison their spouse with it, try to blame the president and get caught.
Now why would a kool-aid drinking never trumper dnc donor listen to the president on this?
Sounds a little fishy don't it, the local authorities also seem to think her story doesn't hold water.
 
Scientists propose a 50 days on, 30 days off coronavirus lockdown strategy
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/study-proposes-50-days-on-30-days-off-coronavirus-lockdown-strategy.html
 
cwerdna said:
Scientists propose a 50 days on, 30 days off coronavirus lockdown strategy
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/study-proposes-50-days-on-30-days-off-coronavirus-lockdown-strategy.html

I'm fine where I am. Working from home permanently would be just fine by me. Not sure my bosses would want to see that though, but they haven't said anything to the contrary yet, so we'll see.
 
mwalsh said:
WetEV said:
One thing the US has a lot of is jerks.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/19/costco-employee-takes-customers-cart-away-refusing-to-wear-mask-coronavirus/?mod=article_inline

Jerks. Yes.

It boggles the mind how bad the red/blue divide has gotten in this country, with those on the red side wiling to put themselves and others in danger to "own the libs". And let's be honest - that's really all most of this is.

Blue:

Stay home.
Wear a mask if you can't.
Follow the advice of scientists.

Red:

I wanna haircut/drink/go to the beach!
I ain't wearin' no mask!
Bleach cocktail with a side of fish tank cleaner? Yes, please!
Not only has the above incident happened there have been instances of people being shot over masks (e.g. https://www.fox23.com/news/trending/coronavirus-family-dollar-security-guard-shot-killed-over-face-mask-family-says/R3M6JFBK5BGYVIUR7J4PUQWDTY/) and brawls (e.g. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/target-security-guard-assault-break-arm-face-mask/). Then there was this guy who wore a KKK hood: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ku-klux-klan-hood-face-mask-san-diego-no-charges/. WTF!?!? Seriously?

More examples of jerks of protesters harassing a reporter: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/reporter-kevin-vesey-harassed-coronavirus-protest.

I skimmed https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/20/voters-divided-over-coronavirus-cnbcchange-research-poll-finds.html last night and can only say sigh... we will have a long way to go until we have a publicly available, safe, effective vaccine (or the virus somehow burns itself out), esp. in red states of those folks don't take social distancing and mask wearing seriously.
 
esp. in red states of those folks don't take social distancing and mask wearing seriously.

Virtually all states are varying shades of "Purple" because they have both liberals and rednecks in them. New York, generally though of as a liberal Blue state, is actually mostly Republican (and worse) North of New Rochelle, meaning that most of the state, geographically, is Red. It's only the larger cities here that are majority liberal, and in some of those it's by a small margin.
 
Ford temporarily closes two plants after three workers test positive for coronavirus
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/20/ford-closes-chicago-plant-after-two-workers-test-positive-for-covid-19.html
Ford Motor closed and then reopened its Chicago Assembly plant twice in less than 24 hours after two workers tested positive for Covid-19, the company confirmed Wednesday.

The brief closures on separate shifts Tuesday are the first-known types of incidents since Detroit automakers started reopening their large North American assembly plants on Monday. The plants were shuttered in March in an attempt to protect workers and lower the spread of the disease.

Ford also shut down its Dearborn Truck plant in Michigan on Wednesday after an employee there tested positive for Covid-19, the company confirmed later in the day. It is expected to resume operations Wednesday night, according to a Ford spokeswoman.
570 employees at Tyson Plant in Wilkesboro test positive for COVID-19, the company says
https://www.wxii12.com/article/570-employees-at-tyson-plant-in-wilkesboro-test-positive-for-covid-19-the-company-says/32620580
WILKESBORO, N.C. - Tyson Foods said that 570 employees at its plant in Wilkesboro have tested positive for COVID-19.

The company tested a total of 2,244 team members and contractors who work at the facility. According to a news release, the majority of those who tested positive did not show any symptoms and otherwise would not have been identified.
 
cwerdna said:
GRA said:
cwerdna said:
Thanks! Any good?


Yes, covered developments of potential treatments (antibodies etc.) and vaccines (RNA & DNA) as well as showing the kind of contact tracing that was instituted in Wuhan, with Nova's more scientific emphasis than you get in the mass media.
Thank you! I watched. It was good.

Was helpful to see more about their QR code, green (and other color) code system that incorporates contact tracing. That level of Big Brotherism I don't think would fly here in the US. It would have to be something more anonymized w/no central database like Google and Apple developed (which I honestly know little about).

I started a thread on that ep over at https://www.tivocommunity.com/community/index.php?threads/nova-decoding-covid-19.577442/. I wonder if anyone will respond. In TCF's happy hour/off-topic area, there's a sub-area for coronavirus discussion. But, you need to have a free account there to see both of those.
It also up at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz5WE3hgvBY now.

OT: https://twitter.com/NYPDnews/status/1263237765359075329?s=20 says
"As of today, Wednesday, May 20th, 5,521 members of the NYPD have returned to work full duty after recovering from a positive test for the coronavirus and 100 uniformed members plus 28 civilian members are still out sick diagnosed with coronavirus."
 
Oilpan4 said:
How about the 7 states that never shut down it seems they are containing the out break?
Oh and at what point are "they going to be sorry they didn't"? I was hearing that alot 6 weeks ago, not a peep any more.

3 of the states have population densities so low that any outbreak would be somewhat less newsworthy but then 2 of the states had large meat processing facilities and we know how that went. This is where nearly all the infections came from for some areas. Its just another nursing home situation aggravated by the fact that a high percentage of workers are/recent immigrants that tend to have extended family living situations so they brought it on home with them.

Two others expected to peak at the end of April or early May are doing ok but hardly killing it. We also have to realize that stay at home is a term that needs to be defined since all the schools have been closed. So is that some sort of special category?
 
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