Hairstylist with COVID-19 served 84 clients while symptomatic, Missouri officials say
Apparently everyone wore a mask. It will be a test of how well masks work.
Hairstylist with COVID-19 served 84 clients while symptomatic, Missouri officials say
LeftieBiker said:Hairstylist with COVID-19 served 84 clients while symptomatic, Missouri officials say
Apparently everyone wore a mask. It will be a test of how well masks work.
cwerdna said:It's been pointed out that Sweden has more COVID-19 deaths than nearby Norway, Finland and Denmark. You can see they are way worse in COVID-19 deaths per 1 million at https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ than those countries, if you sort by that. Right now on that metric it's:
Sweden 291
Denmark 87
Finland 45
Norway 40
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6920e2.htm?s_cid=mm6920e2_w seems to be the study.cwerdna said:CDC tracks cluster of coronavirus cases in rural Arkansas to church, raising alarm on religious gatherings
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/19/cdc-tracks-cluster-of-coronavirus-cases-in-rural-arkansas-to-church-raising-alarm-on-religious-gatherings.html
At the Arkansas church, the pastor and his wife were the first two confirmed cases of Covid-19 in the county of about 25,000, the CDC says. Officials from the Arkansas Department of Health began an investigation on March 16 to understand the source of transmission and to identify others who might have been exposed.
The investigation traced the two infections to a three-day children’s event held at the church between March 6 and March 8 and a Bible study group held on March 11.
The CDC didn’t identify the church, but the Arkansas Democrat Gazette reported March 23 that 34 members of the First Assemblies of God Church in Greers Ferry who attended a children’s event there tested positive for the virus.
The CDC study said 92 attendees were contacted by health officials. Of those, 45 people were tested for Covid-19, 35 of those tests were positive and three of the people died. Asymptomatic attendees were not “routinely tested,” the CDC said.
Spread of the virus within this event also leaked into the broader community, the CDC researchers said. At least 26 people who reported contact with attendees of the church tested positive for Covid-19 and one of them died, the researchers said.
I guess he's clueless about the above, the Skagit County choir (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6919e6.htm) and the Shincheonji "cult" church in South Korea?WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Friday labeled churches and other houses of worship as “essential” and called on governors nationwide to let them reopen this weekend even though some areas remain under coronavirus lockdown.
The president threatened to “override” governors who defy him, but it was unclear what authority he has to do so.
An interesting alernative is to allow services, but only with face masks and with limits to density of people. This is already happening in NY. NY allows 10 people to gather, as long as masks are worn and social distancing is followed. Ten seems to be a key number in Judaism and daily morning services have resumed. There must be ten for a religious reason (ask someone Jewish, I'm not), and there can be no more than ten according to the NY department of health. In a few months we should know how safe this is.cwerdna said:Trump declares churches ‘essential,’ calls on them to reopen
I guess he's clueless about the above, the Skagit County choir (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6919e6.htm) and the Shincheonji "cult" church in South Korea?
They should continue to do remote services or do it with social distancing in parking lots, as some have done.
“A Pissing Section in the Pool.” That is what he said. I don’t even remember what news program and what epidemiologist, as I am in the Zoom/News blur of pandemic life, but I very much remember his answer. The reporter asked the epidemiologist, “with no federal coordinated response, and some governors defying guidelines for reopening, do you think this uncoordinated approach will work?” The epidemiologist just looked back at the camera and said, “does a pissing section in the pool work?”
And like a Damascus road experience I was suddenly able to see in a way I had not before. You may be wondering where I am going with this, and those of you that hound me about “staying out of politics” or “staying in my lane” which usually is translated really to, staying out of YOUR politics, or out of YOUR lane, I am going to look at this theologically, the Church, my lane.
Oilpan4 said:Looks like for people under 60 are about as likely to die from trump virus as flu.
Except for children under 18, only in the US 12 have died, normally it does almost nothing to them.
The media doesn't like talking about it so numbers aren't they easy to find but it looks like overall around half of trump virus deaths nation wide since the begining have been nursing home residents, but more recently up to 70 to 80% of deaths in PA for example have been in nursing homes.
Shudding down the entire country for this was stupid, not protecting nursing homes better and going after people who wanted to keep their small business going was vile. Unless that business catered to the elderly.
MWalsh might be right.Oilpan4 said:Looks like for people under 60 are about as likely to die from trump virus as flu.
Except for children under 18, only in the US 12 have died, normally it does almost nothing to them.
The media doesn't like talking about it so numbers aren't they easy to find but it looks like overall around half of trump virus deaths nation wide since the begining have been nursing home residents, but more recently up to 70 to 80% of deaths in PA for example have been in nursing homes.
Shudding down the entire country for this was stupid, not protecting nursing homes better and going after people who wanted to keep their small business going was vile. Unless that business catered to the elderly.
cwerdna said:What a bunch of garbage. On another forum, someone tried to make the same claim about the 64 and under age group and pointed to https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109867/coronavirus-death-rates-by-age-new-york-city/. Well, look at those numbers for those 64 and under vs. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm "Table 2: Estimated rates of influenza-associated disease outcomes, per 100,000, by age group — United States, 2017-2018 influenza season".
downeykp said:4 brave souls lost their lives in Benghazi and those on the right went apoplectic. Where is the outrage when the utter incompetence of this administration is responsible for the deaths of thousands.
downeykp said:Mike I do believe we are feeding the troll. He just loves him some Fox and OANN.
Reputable source of this?Oilpan4 said:The projections originally said a million or 2 would die with all the shutdown and hide under your bed BS.
Oilpan4 said:You are responsible for your own personal safety, no one else.
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
cwerdna said:What are those 7? Are the ones at https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/politics/asa-hutchison-arkansas-coronavirus/index.html what you had in mind?Oilpan4 said:How about the 7 states that never shut down it seems they are containing the out break?
Oh and at what point are "they going to be sorry they didn't"? I was hearing that alot 6 weeks ago, not a peep any more.
As for "never shutdown", well, I went thru the list that I found at https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/politics/asa-hutchison-arkansas-coronavirus/index.html at https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/states-reopen-map-coronavirus.html. Even if they had no statewide stay-at-home-order, they all seemed to have shutdown all sorts of businesses (e.g. food and drink, retail, personal care (barbers, nail salons, etc.), gyms, etc.) And, some are still shut.Oilpan4 said:7 states never shutdown, everyone kept saying "they'll be sorry", but to turns out they're fine.
WetEV said:Oilpan4 said:You are responsible for your own personal safety, no one else.We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Maybe in Russia, Troll.
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