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mwalsh said:
Oilpan4 said:
Looks like for people under 60 are about as likely to die from trump virus as flu.
Except for children under 18, only in the US 12 have died, normally it does almost nothing to them.
The media doesn't like talking about it so numbers aren't they easy to find but it looks like overall around half of trump virus deaths nation wide since the begining have been nursing home residents, but more recently up to 70 to 80% of deaths in PA for example have been in nursing homes.
Shudding down the entire country for this was stupid, not protecting nursing homes better and going after people who wanted to keep their small business going was vile. Unless that business catered to the elderly.


Think it's time to foe you, bro. You're not bringing anything worthwhile to table. At least not in my opinion.

The guy could teach a graduate course in logical fallacies. That could be worthwhile.
 
To teach logical fallacies you have to know that they exist, and recognize them. Living them is insufficient by itself. As they say, "Those who can't do, teach." Oilpan does.
 
cwerdna said:
Hairstylist with COVID-19 served 84 clients while symptomatic, Missouri officials say
https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article242946596.html
A second hairstylist who worked while symptomatic potentially exposed 56 clients to Covid-19, officials say
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/missouri-hairstylists-coronavirus-clients-trnd/index.html
(CNN)Two Missouri hairstylists potentially exposed 140 clients to coronavirus when they worked for up to eight days this month while symptomatic, health officials said.
The Springfield-Greene Health Department announced Saturday that a second hairstylist tested positive for coronavirus, and may have exposed 56 clients at the same Great Clips salon.
A cluster of coronavirus cases was reported in Arkansas after a swim party
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/23/us/arkansas-swim-party-coronavirus/index.html

How a fitness class made 112 people sick
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/21/opinions/south-korea-dance-class-covid19-outbreak-sepkowitz/index.html
The above is South Korea's contact tracing at work.

Memorial Day weekend crowds at Lake of the Ozarks appear to not be observing social distancing
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/memorial-day-weekend-crowds-at-lake-of-the-ozarks-appear-to-not-be-observing-social-distancing/63-44d7096c-431f-4879-86ff-00ef252781b6
https://www.kmov.com/news/watch-packed-pool-party-at-lake-of-the-ozarks-shows-crowd-ignoring-social-distancing-guidelines/article_5de50ce8-9dbb-11ea-bd46-6b8e99107093.html
 
There was a loud, late night party with bonfire here, two houses up, the other night. I didn't do a head count, but there were at least six cars here for it, so I'd guess about 12-20 people total. I didn't see them, so I can't say for sure that they weren't wearing masks. I doubt that they were.
 
LeftieBiker said:
There was a loud, late night party with bonfire here, two houses up, the other night. I didn't do a head count, but there were at least six cars here for it, so I'd guess about 12-20 people total. I didn't see them, so I can't say for sure that they weren't wearing masks. I doubt that they were.

There was one down the street from us too. Quick headcount seemed to indicate maybe a dozen people. Sounds like something going on in the yard behind us today. Maybe about half a dozen, based on the noise. Good luck to 'em, I say. I think it's still too soon.
 
Looking at any death by trumpvirus "temperature map" by county it looks like trumpvirus is a big problem for NYC, NJ, MA, CT, eastern PA and a couple other places.
I'm glad I didn't give up anytime, any money or anything over the trump virus scare.
 
https://www.4029tv.com/article/arkansas-unemployment-rate-hits-102/32642824
Arkansas' unemployment rate hit 10.2% in April, according to preliminary numbers released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics Friday morning.

This is the second-highest unemployment rate since the state's records begin in 1976. Arkansas had 10.3% in December 1982, January 1983 and February 1983.
Arkansas seeing second spike of COVID-19
https://www.nwahomepage.com/news/arkansas-seeing-second-spike-of-covid-19/

I'm in the middle of watching the entire episode of the below which my TiVo recorded.
GPS Special Preview: China's Deadly Secret
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2020/05/24/exp-gps-0524-e-block-clip-from-chinas-deadly-secret.cnn
Fareed Zakaria Investigates What China Knew, and When, as COVID-19 Raced Around the World
https://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2020/05/22/fareed-zakaria-investigates-what-china-knew-and-when-as-covid-19-raced-around-the-world/

Here's an ironic tweet: :D
https://twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1262376762094256128?s=20
Secretary Pompeo @SecPompeo · May 18
No surprise that Taiwan mounted one of the most successful efforts to contain COVID to date. Transparent, vibrant, and innovative democracies like Taiwan always respond faster and more effectively to pandemics than authoritarian regimes. #TweetforTaiwan

Posted by an epidemiologist friend of someone on TiVoCommunity:
How the coronavirus spreads in those everyday places we visit
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/05/23/your-guide-how/
 
He experienced a severe reaction to Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine candidate. He’s still a believer
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/26/he-experienced-a-severe-reaction-to-modernas-covid-19-vaccine-candidate-hes-still-a-believer.html

Unrelated: WTF? This is just as stupid if not more so than the ridiculous "theory" that COVID-19 is caused by 5G, which is supposedly is causing cell phone towers to get attacked in the UK.

US poll says only 1 in 4 Republican voters disbelieve Bill Gates coronavirus conspiracy
Half of all Fox News viewers believe Gates wants to implant a microchip as part of a vaccination program.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/us-poll-says-only-1-in-4-republican-voters-disbelieve-bill-gates-coronavirus-conspiracy/
 
Welll it looks like the trumpvirus hysteria shutdowns and lockdown didn't crash the economy.
Now what's the plan?
 
Oilpan4 said:
Welll it looks like the trumpvirus hysteria shutdowns and lockdown didn't crash the economy.
Now what's the plan?

Giving you coronavirus so you might learn something.

A moderate case is pretty brutal.

Actually never mind. We don't want to piss off your boss today. Maybe tomorrow.
 
Trump virus is going to get us all, I suggest you get your affairs in order.
Hiding is just delaying the inevitable.
 
downeykp said:
Stop feeding the troll.

Change my mind.
We are probably around 2 years away from a 90% effective vaccine.
You going to hide for the next 2 years?
It's time to grow up.
 
Oilpan4 said:
Change my mind.
We are probably around 2 years away from a 90% effective vaccine.
You going to hide for the next 2 years?
It's time to grow up.

I haven't been "hiding". It's easy to argue against strawmen. Why don't you give us your suggestions for coping with this disease for the next 2 years? Specifics, please. And not just for your local unpopulated area, the whole country.
 
"What would Joseph Biden do
if he were here right now
He'd make a plan and he'd follow through
That's what Joseph Biden would do”.

Meanwhile, in Trumpland:

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What would biden do?
Let's see him and Obama let the swine flu run loose for months, waited for 1,000 people to die before declining a state of emergency and putting in travel restrictions in place which by then was definitely too late.
I could sum up the obama biden swine flu response as "too little, too late".

Nubo said:
Oilpan4 said:
Change my mind.
We are probably around 2 years away from a 90% effective vaccine.
You going to hide for the next 2 years?
It's time to grow up.

I haven't been "hiding". It's easy to argue against strawmen. Why don't you give us your suggestions for coping with this disease for the next 2 years? Specifics, please. And not just for your local unpopulated area, the whole country.

Unlike some of the people on here I'm not going to pretend to know what's best for you or what your situation is, so you do you.
Just don't waste too much time on what other people are doing and worry about your self or your clan.
I'm just staying plan on getting the virus, that is all.
For me I'm going to relax and watch everyone who crammed them selves into the big cities freak out over this.
 
The latest AP poll says only about 49% of people would get the trump virus vaccine.
So if tomorrow a trump vaccine was ready and all 49% of people got a first generation shot of trump juice that was effective on 2/3 to 70% people, it still changes almost nothing.
 
And 31% said they were unsure if they'd get it, with only 20% saying they definitely wouldn't get it, all of this for a poll about an as yet unavailable vaccine, with more deaths to come.

Of course it will change things: if it's effective, those likely to have severe symptoms or die from Covid-19 but who have been vaccinated, won't. And as most schools will require it, those children won't be infecting anyone else either.
 
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