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Ron Barbosa, who is married to a doctor and refused to attend the May 30 party for his daughter-in-law because of safety concerns amid the COVID-19 pandemic, said those hospitalized included his parents, both in their 80's, and his sister, who is also battling breast cancer.
Walters suggested that those he has recently come into contact with should monitor their symptoms. However, he is refusing to cooperate with Maryland contact tracers by providing any personal information that could help them contain the virus.
LeftieBiker said:but generally our default mode is "Fairly Smart Monkey."
The coronavirus is still raging, particularly in states like Texas, Arizona and Florida. We already know what it takes to beat it. We just need to do it.
As infection rates rapidly rise in many red states, Senate Republicans can and should legislate to protect their constituents and their country. It’s good politics to save lives while saving the economy. They can start by taking a page from other advanced market economies that managed to turn the corner on the pandemic and safely restore normalcy. In addition to mask-wearing, these countries have all adopted a strategy to test, trace and isolate the virus out of circulation.
Taiwan was the first country to use it effectively. Applying lessons gleaned from SARS, which emerged in Asia in 2002, Taiwan immediately traced (and closely studied) its first 100 cases. It was able to avoid community spread altogether — topping out at 447 total cases — without a lockdown. South Korea was slower, but eventually suppressed its outbreak to fewer than 13,000 cases without a widespread lockdown. Germany, Australia and New Zealand have all adopted the same strategy to avoid reinstating their lockdowns. By detecting and containing new outbreaks before they spread, these market economies plan to stay open, resilient and competitive, while America’s economy loses ground amid new waves of infection.
WetEV said:The coronavirus is still raging, particularly in states like Texas, Arizona and Florida. We already know what it takes to beat it. We just need to do it.
As infection rates rapidly rise in many red states, Senate Republicans can and should legislate to protect their constituents and their country. It’s good politics to save lives while saving the economy. They can start by taking a page from other advanced market economies that managed to turn the corner on the pandemic and safely restore normalcy. In addition to mask-wearing, these countries have all adopted a strategy to test, trace and isolate the virus out of circulation.
Taiwan was the first country to use it effectively. Applying lessons gleaned from SARS, which emerged in Asia in 2002, Taiwan immediately traced (and closely studied) its first 100 cases. It was able to avoid community spread altogether — topping out at 447 total cases — without a lockdown. South Korea was slower, but eventually suppressed its outbreak to fewer than 13,000 cases without a widespread lockdown. Germany, Australia and New Zealand have all adopted the same strategy to avoid reinstating their lockdowns. By detecting and containing new outbreaks before they spread, these market economies plan to stay open, resilient and competitive, while America’s economy loses ground amid new waves of infection.
Nubo said:Some family members recently learned they'd been exposed to someone who contracted the virus. They sought testing and were told it would be a week's wait. So much for testing and isolating. But "SLOW THE TESTING DOWN PLEASE" is what we get from POTUS.
I disagree.LeftieBiker said:What this means is runaway pandemic in large areas of the country until a good vaccine is widely available - and then another 6-12 months after that. I wonder if places like New York will be able to maintain our relative control, because social distancing and mask wearing are already breaking down all over. It looks like we are taking the cruel "herd immunity" route to the other side...leaving hundreds of thousands or more to die while we do.
LeftieBiker said:What this means is runaway pandemic in large areas of the country until a good vaccine is widely available - and then another 6-12 months after that. I wonder if places like New York will be able to maintain our relative control, because social distancing and mask wearing are already breaking down all over. It looks like we are taking the cruel "herd immunity" route to the other side...leaving hundreds of thousands or more to die while we do.
Nubo said:I'm not even sure it's the goal of "herd immunity" that is driving it. It's more like social Darwinism. Basically they're asking: "Why should I have to sacrifice just to save some old and/or "weak" people"? Along with the belief that they themselves are unlikely to be damaged.
LeftieBiker said:I'm not saying that herd immunity is any kind of "goal." I'm saying that because too many of us don't have the discipline to do what is needed (or even the proper information instilled in us), herd immunity is what will happen. And yes, I understand what that means. Human nature being what it is, and this virus being what it is, survival instinct will kick in too late in the pandemic process. We are a reactive species, not a proactive one.
Is heard immunity a guarantee though?
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