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Re: Costs of Climate Change Denial Start to Roll In

Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:23 am

I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Re: Costs of Climate Change Denial Start to Roll In

Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:10 pm

I prefer fire weather avalanche dot org

A US departmentof the interior says that up to 90% of wild fires are ignited by man.
But climate change is blamed..
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Re: Costs of Climate Change Denial Start to Roll In

Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:51 pm

Oilpan4 wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:10 pm
I prefer fire weather avalanche dot org

A US departmentof the interior says that up to 90% of wild fires are ignited by man.
But climate change is blamed..
Climate change is credited with an assist, not a goal.

More fires should be ignited by man. Prescribed fires. Climate change or no climate change. Yet this is only a partial answer. Some types of forest are not realistic to reduce fuels with prescribed fires. Like lodgepole pine forests in the Rocky Mountains.
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Re: Costs of Climate Change Denial Start to Roll In

Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:41 pm

I reduce the fuel load on my acres of wooded land by burning in place, dragging brush throwing it on a pile and torching or by burning in my wood stove and coal furnace.
One pile of brush I have been building up for the last several years is about the size of a school bus.
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Re: Costs of Climate Change Denial Start to Roll In

Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:15 am

The police arrested a Portland man for starting fires, released him, then went out and started 6 more before arresting him again.
That's good news right?
I think it is.
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Re: Costs of Climate Change Denial Start to Roll In

Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:44 pm

It's never good news when the police are starting fires.
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Re: Costs of Climate Change Denial Start to Roll In

Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:07 am

Image

The Gulf Stream system is slowly shutting down.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/ar ... tion-amoc/
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Re: Costs of Climate Change Denial Start to Roll In

Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:24 am

Look at all the trees they cleared, steel used, concrete and fiber glass used. All the diesel powered diggers, dozers, tractor trailers, cranes.
All products of or powered by oil, coal and natural gas.
Hopefully we can get 40-50 years out of them, not 20.
https://youtu.be/0vE6QkvcV-s
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Re: Costs of Climate Change Denial Start to Roll In

Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:12 am

Oilpan4 wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:24 am
Look at all the trees they cleared, steel used, concrete and fiber glass used. All the diesel powered diggers, dozers, tractor trailers, cranes.
All products of or powered by oil, coal and natural gas.
Hopefully we can get 40-50 years out of them, not 20.
https://youtu.be/0vE6QkvcV-s
So the next question is, how many trees cleared, steel, concrete and other materials used when creating other power generation methods?
Then add to that the energy that goes into mining the fuel for the energy generation. And then the storage of waste materials.
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Re: Costs of Climate Change Denial Start to Roll In

Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:22 am

The guy down the road a few miles from me has over 300 acres and that was barely enough to put three 1.5Mw turbines.
So if land area is no object then you can do wind.
By comparison there's an old 300 or 400Mw turbine plant in Lubbock that sits on less than 25 acres.
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